7mgte swap vs 1jz swap

[Green7mgte]

is it even possible to find a non jdm 1jz? im ready for a rebuild and been toying with the idea for a few years now.

[cre]

Originally Posted by Green7mgte

is it even possible to find a non jdm 1jz? im ready for a rebuild and been toying with the idea for a few years now.

You're not going to find one from anywhere in North, Central or South America... I know they're more common in some other countries but those could all be grey market vehicles initially brought in from Japan as well.... Either way the point still stands: Used = Used. But JDM often = used AND sitting in a rainy, open lot or shipping dock for god know how long. Never drop anything straight in...

[Awyman18]

personally i would stick with the 7m, cheaper, find parts easier and its a all around good engine. yes the 1jz can make power easier, but like cre said, ur gonna need to rebuild it, and u might not even find the right part unless u fork out lots of $$. With the 7m, u can easily reach 350whp. Its not to hard, and if u rebuild it, parts will be cheaper and easier to find. Stupid mechanics just dont know how to work on 7m's, once u find one who does (or u learn urself) than ur golden.

[cre]

It's not just stupid mechanics... It's the ignorant young guys who don't stop to think that a head, block deck and crank THAT long need to be PERFECT. Who don't realize that that light pitting is a killer. Who flat out fail to consider that it's an OLD engine. Hell they don't even have hypereutectic alloy pistons... many builders expect that as the most basic engine at least have that (the 1JZ does). Then there are the cheap owners who THINK they bought a cool car that was a complete bargain. Age isn't a friend of any of these engines nor is the fact that for a decade now they've been so affordable and over-glorified that 90% have been bought up and trashed by stupid little kids. Stupid little kiddies will trash just about anything but these are a favorite because they're often cheaper to find (not keep running or repair though) and it's not the same Honda that all of their friends are driving around and trashing. Finally, there's the fact that the car itself just wasn't that robust. It was Toyota's car for the weekend driver and a showcase for the latest and greatest technology... unfortunately half of the materials they used were later found to age horribly... of course this goes for many 80's cars from many manufacturers.


Shall I continue ranting? It's been about 15 minutes since I've had a good venting.

[Awyman18]

well some of wat ur saying cre is right but alot of it isnt lol but rant if u want, idc lol im only 22, bought my supra and fixed it up, replaced the hg with a friend and havnt had to touch it since. But then again, my supra is almost mint so maybe i got lucky, or maybe its because i take care of it so well lol but yes they MAY be cheaper....but thats if u can find one.

[cre]

Originally Posted by Awyman18

well some of wat ur saying cre is right but alot of it isnt lol but rant if u want, idc lol im only 22, bought my supra and fixed it up, replaced the hg with a friend and havnt had to touch it since. But then again, my supra is almost mint so maybe i got lucky, or maybe its because i take care of it so well lol but yes they MAY be cheaper....but thats if u can find one.

Nope, you got part of my point... I think... you're communications skills really blow half the time (but at least it's only HALF the time).

The 7M is a DECENT engine. MOST have been beat to shit. The GTE 7M can make 400hp with less work than swapping in a 1JZ and modifying it. As they are both over two decades old, you're an idiot if you EXPECT either to be reliable. Total cost for a RELIABLE 400hp the 7M wins.

NEVER plan on being the exception to the rule! If you get lucky, awesome... it probably won't happen again so live it up.

[Joefishizzle]

Just wanted to add, not that I like my 7m, I honestly hate it. However im running 200,XXX on original head gasket. My car is a 86.5, just saying.

[Awyman18]

i assume its stock?

[CanadianBak'inSupra]

there is alot of support for both engines out there.
your gona be fing around just trying to get a stock 1j in there so just go with the 7mgte. whats the price of the swap?? a msd tach adapter and a oil filter re-location??

can't you get a usdm 1j from a lexus parts car??