2JZGE to 2JZGTE Swap Questions

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

And the difference is...?

For starters, the price (and yes, that Tilton all-carbon clutch is very much worth the price, imho.

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

...But that clutch can handle 800HP...if that's not a very high figure to you, I don't know what is...

800hp=680rwhp. No, 680rwhp is NOT a "very high" figure for the Mkiv Supra Turbo. 680rwhp is achievable with the oem fuel system, methanol injection, and a small-to-mid-sized single turbo ... which is a rather modest configuration quite honestly. Truly impressive Mkiv Supra dynos are well over 1,500rwhp (which is >1,750hp) these days.

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

...So tell me, why does the Tilton clutch description speak of "multi-plate" clutch?...

Why wouldn't it? It is a multi-plate clutch, so that description is completely accurate.

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

...What did/do you think of the OEM pads through your personal experience?

Good (but not great) braking power, low noise, moderate rotor wear, relatively high amount of brake dust.

[[SupraLEGEND]]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Please note that all clutches have a single pressure plate. It's only the number of clutch disks and floater plates that vary.

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Why wouldn't it? It is a multi-plate clutch, so that description is completely accurate.

So, you're saying that a multi-plate clutch is one that has just a single pressure plate but, one with multiple floater plates?? If so, what is/are a floater plate/s?

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

So, you're saying that a multi-plate clutch is one that has just a single pressure plate but, one with multiple floater plates?? If so, what is/are a floater plate/s?

Well first of all, I'm not just saying it. I've installed dozens of multi-disk clutches in dozens of supras (many more single disk clutches too, of course).

Secondly, there's no such thing as a clutch with more than one pressure plate - at least not for the 2jz-gte and V160.

The floater plates do just that - they float ... in between the multiple clutch disks, of course.

[[SupraLEGEND]]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Well first of all, I'm not just saying it. I've installed dozens of multi-disk clutches in dozens of supras (many more single disk clutches too, of course).

Secondly, there's no such thing as a clutch with more than one pressure plate - at least not for the 2jz-gte and V160.

The floater plates float in between the multiple clutch disks, of course.

Right, to put it simply - a clutch disk is known as a clutch plate and those are referred to as single, twin or triple depending on the number but, there is only one pressure plate present. Right or wrong?

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by [SupraLEGEND]

Right, to put it simply - a clutch disk is known as a clutch plate and those are referred to as single, twin or triple depending on the number but, there is only one pressure plate present. Right or wrong?

Twin, triple, or quadruple clutches have multiple clutch disks/plates and multiple floater plates. Clutch disks/plates always have friction material on them, but the pressure plate, floater plates and flywheel surface usually do not (except in the case of 'triple-carbon' clutches).

Here's an example of a quadruple disk, 'triple-carbon' carbon clutch:
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/tiqudifor93s.html
It is literally the most expensive clutch for the Mkiv Supra Turbo (w/2jz-gte and V160). It has four clutch disks, three floater plates, and sixteen surfaces with carbon-fiber friction material.

Here's another top-of-the-line clutch for the Mkiv Supra Turbo. It's RPS' triple carbon:
http://www.turboclutch.com/Pages/RPS%20BC3M%20LSX.htm
In this illustration, you can more clearly see all of the clutch disks and floater plates.