possible blown Head Gasket

2Fast2Furious · 12-08-2009, 07:34 PM

My head is up my ass right now.

Point 1: first mechanic replaced coil and informed me Rocker Head Gasket needs replacing (however this mechanic hasn't even got a pit or hoist);

Point 2: Toyota have car for 2 days just to check it, no work has been done, first day they inform me of new set of plugs need replacing etc, second day head gasket needs replacing;

Point 3: local car part company put me in touch with local performance car mechanic, he says it doesn't sound like a blown head gasket but can't look at it until after Christmas.

Why would Toyota lie?

There is a Supra Specialist Company fairly close to me. Should I let they have a look? http://www.supraspecialists.moonfruit.com/#

Should I not get a new fecking engine instead? How much would a new engine be? I blelieve reconditioned maybe €4000, though not sure.

Something isn't right with the car like.

The car isn't worth that, however I would pay to have it done as I love her.

cre · 12-08-2009, 08:32 PM

It doesn't seem to me that your head is up your rear at all... It does seem that maybe you're in over your head though.

I REALLY think you need to either come to terms with learning how and doing some of the work yourself or accept that the car is going to cost you an absolute fortune to send to the shop every time something goes wrong.

Do you know anyone who is mechanically inclined who could help you?

#1 if the spark plugs haven't been replaced yet, do them yourself. Go to the auto parts store, but the specified NGK Platinum spark plugs and follow the directions in the following link EXACTLY.

Disassembly to access the spark plugs: http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...ection=IG&P=10
Spark plug installation: http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar....aspx?S=IG&P=7

Don't worry about inspecting the plugs yet, just replace them for now and we'll have a look at the old ones later to see if they have anything special to tell us.

Actually, once you move the piping out of the way from sitting over the engine, you're half way to replacing the valve cover gaskets.... I can lay out the proceedure for you, but I don't think I'm close enough that you want to just come over and let me show you how to do it....

2Fast2Furious · 12-08-2009, 08:56 PM

Right I'm off work on Sunday so I will change the plugs myself.

The stockroom lad in work is a motorbike enthusiast, he does minor work himself, he has replaced engine in a car with a qualified mechanic before.

Recently all we've done is talk about cars. He is a wealth of good information like yourself cre, he was very surprised that the HG had gone, he said it must have just gone.

Reading back on paperwork HG was last replaced in 99 when the car was 10 years old, since them a further 10 years have passed. poor women had only bought it 3 months from the dealer before she had to replace it, I laughed reading it, now I'm in the same pradictament, lol

I will call into car part shop in town to buy 6 plugs and cord set.

Guy in work was saying hardest part is making sure you don't mis-thread the plugs.

EDIT:

Toyota did no work on it.

Car cost 1250 STERLING. I had plans to make a lot of changes to her, this has just set them back a bit.

First was exterior styling, then mechanical working, then ICE and interior.

New wheels should arrive in 2 days 1200 STERLING, personalised number plate SUP 708 has been ordered 2500 STERLING(this was the best available as I can't change plates to make the car look younger, there was some wicked plates for new cars), travelled to Dublin last week to get Limo-black tints however the small rear triangular windows are bigger on the outside than on the inside and have rubbers-they couldn't get in under the rubbers so you would have seem were the tint started from the outside (I am going to get glass company to take rears out and bring them to get tinted with the rest of the car).

THIS WAS ONLY THE START.

cre · 12-08-2009, 09:01 PM

Order new seals for the rocker covers from Toyota while you're at it... I do recommend getting actual Toyota brand seals for those.

2Fast2Furious · 12-09-2009, 02:30 PM

UPDATE:

I phoned Toyota Garage today;

(1) they didn't do pH test on the water reservoir,

(2) they didn't do a compression test on cyclinder heads.

They did do pressure test on the water/coolant, results;

(1) it didn't hold any pressure,

(2) there is no water getting to the engine at all.

If this were the case the engine would not be working.

Checked the oil again, it is clear as day, no bubbles.

After I come home from work today I am going to feel the water reservoir to see if it is warm, that should tell me if the water is circulating and therefore getting to the engine, YES?

2Fast2Furious · 12-10-2009, 08:04 PM

My water reservoir never warms up is this right?

I drained the radiator and the coolant was cyrstal clear (pink yes).

I think the engine plug bolt head has been snapped off before because were it should be there is a screw headless bolt hanging out (maybe I'm mistaken and can't find it from top view).

Should I disconnect the hose at the rear them to drain the engine?

The water from the reservoir never drained when I drained the radiator, is this because the pump pumps it out?

Next I filled radiator with water, switched engine on, no change to reservoir, so I undid the plug a little and waited while some water drained, no change to reservoir. How can I get pump to pump water from reservoir to see if it is working?

The radiator gets very hot, I know this is normal but it steams alot. Is this a sign of a leaky radiator or a bad radiator? Why does my thero also read normal?

2Fast2Furious · 12-10-2009, 09:21 PM

Right, I didn't even notice the sticky relating to oil in cyclinder cover gasket, good thread and very reassuring.

So I might just replace the #3 Cyclinder Head Cover with new part from Toyota and not the Valve Cover Gaskets. Aswell as replace the plugs and wires.

That should sort out misfiring problem then move on to next problem.

I know I jump from one thing to the next but if Toyota came up with no pressure in cooling system, there must be something in it.

Were are you cre, don't give up on me!

2Fast2Furious · 12-08-2009, 09:22 PM

http://www.modified.com/features/060.../photo_02.html

I think this Supra is sweet.

cvbikeguy · 12-09-2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Fast2Furious

http://www.modified.com/features/060.../photo_02.html

I think this Supra is sweet.

"not every supra looks like a catfish"

love that car.

Krem · 12-08-2009, 10:04 PM

just side comment from the peanut gallery.. I need to take the car in for greater majority of things wrong with it... I might be able to swap a battery, alternator, spark plug wires and such... but when it comes down to diagnostics and repairs that require something be removed to access something else... I'll take her into a shop (for now, hopefully I'll catch up to Cre someday).. However, I typically will find out what is wrong with it and buy the parts myself rather than the mechanic's supplier.. this doesn't save a bundle, but it has definately saved me ~$500 on the $1500 in car repair I've had since owning her.

12-10-2009, 08:04 PM	#6
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	My water reservoir never warms up is this right? I drained the radiator and the coolant was cyrstal clear (pink yes). I think the engine plug bolt head has been snapped off before because were it should be there is a screw headless bolt hanging out (maybe I'm mistaken and can't find it from top view). Should I disconnect the hose at the rear them to drain the engine? The water from the reservoir never drained when I drained the radiator, is this because the pump pumps it out? Next I filled radiator with water, switched engine on, no change to reservoir, so I undid the plug a little and waited while some water drained, no change to reservoir. How can I get pump to pump water from reservoir to see if it is working? The radiator gets very hot, I know this is normal but it steams alot. Is this a sign of a leaky radiator or a bad radiator? Why does my thero also read normal? Last edited by 2Fast2Furious; 12-10-2009 at 08:07 PM.

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12-08-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	My head is up my ass right now. Point 1: first mechanic replaced coil and informed me Rocker Head Gasket needs replacing (however this mechanic hasn't even got a pit or hoist); Point 2: Toyota have car for 2 days just to check it, no work has been done, first day they inform me of new set of plugs need replacing etc, second day head gasket needs replacing; Point 3: local car part company put me in touch with local performance car mechanic, he says it doesn't sound like a blown head gasket but can't look at it until after Christmas. Why would Toyota lie? There is a Supra Specialist Company fairly close to me. Should I let they have a look? http://www.supraspecialists.moonfruit.com/# Should I not get a new fecking engine instead? How much would a new engine be? I blelieve reconditioned maybe €4000, though not sure. Something isn't right with the car like. The car isn't worth that, however I would pay to have it done as I love her. Last edited by 2Fast2Furious; 12-08-2009 at 07:39 PM.

12-08-2009, 08:32 PM	#2
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	It doesn't seem to me that your head is up your rear at all... It does seem that maybe you're in over your head though. I REALLY think you need to either come to terms with learning how and doing some of the work yourself or accept that the car is going to cost you an absolute fortune to send to the shop every time something goes wrong. Do you know anyone who is mechanically inclined who could help you? #1 if the spark plugs haven't been replaced yet, do them yourself. Go to the auto parts store, but the specified NGK Platinum spark plugs and follow the directions in the following link EXACTLY. Disassembly to access the spark plugs: http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...ection=IG&P=10 Spark plug installation: http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar....aspx?S=IG&P=7 Don't worry about inspecting the plugs yet, just replace them for now and we'll have a look at the old ones later to see if they have anything special to tell us. Actually, once you move the piping out of the way from sitting over the engine, you're half way to replacing the valve cover gaskets.... I can lay out the proceedure for you, but I don't think I'm close enough that you want to just come over and let me show you how to do it....

12-08-2009, 08:56 PM	#3
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	Right I'm off work on Sunday so I will change the plugs myself. The stockroom lad in work is a motorbike enthusiast, he does minor work himself, he has replaced engine in a car with a qualified mechanic before. Recently all we've done is talk about cars. He is a wealth of good information like yourself cre, he was very surprised that the HG had gone, he said it must have just gone. Reading back on paperwork HG was last replaced in 99 when the car was 10 years old, since them a further 10 years have passed. poor women had only bought it 3 months from the dealer before she had to replace it, I laughed reading it, now I'm in the same pradictament, lol I will call into car part shop in town to buy 6 plugs and cord set. Guy in work was saying hardest part is making sure you don't mis-thread the plugs. EDIT: Toyota did no work on it. Car cost 1250 STERLING. I had plans to make a lot of changes to her, this has just set them back a bit. First was exterior styling, then mechanical working, then ICE and interior. New wheels should arrive in 2 days 1200 STERLING, personalised number plate SUP 708 has been ordered 2500 STERLING(this was the best available as I can't change plates to make the car look younger, there was some wicked plates for new cars), travelled to Dublin last week to get Limo-black tints however the small rear triangular windows are bigger on the outside than on the inside and have rubbers-they couldn't get in under the rubbers so you would have seem were the tint started from the outside (I am going to get glass company to take rears out and bring them to get tinted with the rest of the car). THIS WAS ONLY THE START. Last edited by 2Fast2Furious; 12-08-2009 at 09:17 PM.

12-08-2009, 09:01 PM	#4
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Order new seals for the rocker covers from Toyota while you're at it... I do recommend getting actual Toyota brand seals for those.

12-09-2009, 02:30 PM	#5
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	UPDATE: I phoned Toyota Garage today; (1) they didn't do pH test on the water reservoir, (2) they didn't do a compression test on cyclinder heads. They did do pressure test on the water/coolant, results; (1) it didn't hold any pressure, (2) there is no water getting to the engine at all. If this were the case the engine would not be working. Checked the oil again, it is clear as day, no bubbles. After I come home from work today I am going to feel the water reservoir to see if it is warm, that should tell me if the water is circulating and therefore getting to the engine, YES?

12-10-2009, 09:21 PM	#7
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	Right, I didn't even notice the sticky relating to oil in cyclinder cover gasket, good thread and very reassuring. So I might just replace the #3 Cyclinder Head Cover with new part from Toyota and not the Valve Cover Gaskets. Aswell as replace the plugs and wires. That should sort out misfiring problem then move on to next problem. I know I jump from one thing to the next but if Toyota came up with no pressure in cooling system, there must be something in it. Were are you cre, don't give up on me!

12-08-2009, 09:22 PM	#8
2Fast2Furious 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 60	http://www.modified.com/features/060.../photo_02.html I think this Supra is sweet.

12-08-2009, 10:04 PM	#10
Krem 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 167	just side comment from the peanut gallery.. I need to take the car in for greater majority of things wrong with it... I might be able to swap a battery, alternator, spark plug wires and such... but when it comes down to diagnostics and repairs that require something be removed to access something else... I'll take her into a shop (for now, hopefully I'll catch up to Cre someday).. However, I typically will find out what is wrong with it and buy the parts myself rather than the mechanic's supplier.. this doesn't save a bundle, but it has definately saved me ~$500 on the $1500 in car repair I've had since owning her.