Car wont turn over after swap!

CanadianBak'inSupra · 09-14-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conga1991

When I turn the key to turn it over theres one click noise coming from where the ecu is, which was kind of strange and I couldnt pin point where exactly where it was coming from.
Also the fuel is going cuz I hear a spray and I have a little fuel leak which Ill fix as well as a small coolant leak on my floor.

when i did the swap same clicking happened it was wierd.

A.starter was hooked up wrong
B.battery was dead (check that you have proper voltage.)

you need air fuel and spark.
your missing one...

916MKIIIx2 · 09-14-2010, 05:12 AM

FYI, you pull the EFI fuse so your car wont be spitting fuel into the cylinders while doing voltage and amps checks on the starter, pulling the EFI fuse will in no way hinder you from making sure your "starter" is working, go to google and type in starter AMP test, and starter voltage test to see what you need to do. "I AM IN NO WAY SAYING THE EFI FUSE IS BAD" Just pull it before you do cranking tests.

depami · 09-14-2010, 04:55 PM

The alarm system can also disable the starter.

Conga1991 · 09-15-2010, 03:01 AM

Okay so I fixed the fuel leak, just had to loosen the union bolt and tighten back on. I pulled the efi fuse so the cylinders dont flood. I checked voltage in the starter and there is power getting to the amp since it would go up to 400 then start at 0 and work its way up again. so im not sure what the problem could be for that. There's also alot of corosion in the wires so ill replace them anyways for future.

Also it never made a clicking noise, the clicking noise I was originally talking about came from the ecu area.

How can I check to see if the problem could be the alarm?

btwilson86 · 09-15-2010, 04:42 AM

Which connection at the starter has no power, the little wire or the big one? If it's the big one, the only culprits can be a bad connection or bad wire. If it's the little one, the alarm is a possibility.

If the alarm is cutting out the starter, I believe you unlock the passenger door a couple of times with the key to disable it.

Conga1991 · 09-15-2010, 10:07 PM

I unlocked and locked the passenger side and tried starting it and still nothing, but now the fuel leak is back so im gonna use some white plumber tape on the union. and im gonna replace the large wire from the battery to the starter hoping thats the problem.

So if the wires to the starter (large battery and small ecu plug) arent the problems, then the only thing causing the starter not to start is the ignition wiring?

depami · 09-15-2010, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conga1991

I unlocked and locked the passenger side and tried starting it and still nothing, but now the fuel leak is back so im gonna use some white plumber tape on the union. and im gonna replace the large wire from the battery to the starter hoping thats the problem.

So if the wires to the starter (large battery and small ecu plug) arent the problems, then the only thing causing the starter not to start is the ignition wiring?

If the fuel line fittings are taper thread, then the teflon tape will work. But, if the fuel fittings are flared tubing or a banjo bolt, the tape will do nothing.

As to the alarm, try unlocking on drivers door, passenger door, and hatch. IIRC, I had this happen once and it did matter which lock disarmed it?

You could remove the starter and do a bench test: Connect battery "-" to the frame and battery "+" to the large stud and see if it runs. Then you know if the starter works or not. If it runs, then the problem is either in your power connections to the starter, or, in the control circuit. The control circuit gets a little more complicated, hopefully you have a manual and/or wiring diagrams?

I don't recall that you stated the year of your car, but, I have manuals on 86.5 and could post diagrams if that would help.

Hope some of this helps.

Good luck!

Denny

t12tninja · 10-04-2010, 04:07 PM

i would say check your grounds cause i had the same issue but i didnt do a swap but it sounds like my problem check all the grounds and mine was the ground in the steering colum

Conga1991 · 10-06-2010, 03:55 AM

Where would the ground be for the steering column?

also does the cam position sensor have to be timed? from what I was told you just put it in and make sure the bolt that holds it is in the middle??

btwilson86 · 10-06-2010, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Conga1991

does the cam position sensor have to be timed? from what I was told you just put it in and make sure the bolt that holds it is in the middle??

Yes, you have to time the CPS. No, you can't just drop it in. You have to line the gear up with the mark on the CPS, when you install it you have to compensate for the several degrees the whole thing is going to turn. Here is a link to the TSRM on how to PROPERLY install the CPS. Be sure you follow that last step (setting the ignition timing).

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btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Which connection at the starter has no power, the little wire or the big one? If it's the big one, the only culprits can be a bad connection or bad wire. If it's the little one, the alarm is a possibility. If the alarm is cutting out the starter, I believe you unlock the passenger door a couple of times with the key to disable it. __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

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09-14-2010, 05:12 AM	#2
916MKIIIx2 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 152	FYI, you pull the EFI fuse so your car wont be spitting fuel into the cylinders while doing voltage and amps checks on the starter, pulling the EFI fuse will in no way hinder you from making sure your "starter" is working, go to google and type in starter AMP test, and starter voltage test to see what you need to do. "I AM IN NO WAY SAYING THE EFI FUSE IS BAD" Just pull it before you do cranking tests.

09-15-2010, 03:01 AM	#4
Conga1991 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 169	Okay so I fixed the fuel leak, just had to loosen the union bolt and tighten back on. I pulled the efi fuse so the cylinders dont flood. I checked voltage in the starter and there is power getting to the amp since it would go up to 400 then start at 0 and work its way up again. so im not sure what the problem could be for that. There's also alot of corosion in the wires so ill replace them anyways for future. Also it never made a clicking noise, the clicking noise I was originally talking about came from the ecu area. How can I check to see if the problem could be the alarm?

09-15-2010, 10:07 PM	#6
Conga1991 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 169	I unlocked and locked the passenger side and tried starting it and still nothing, but now the fuel leak is back so im gonna use some white plumber tape on the union. and im gonna replace the large wire from the battery to the starter hoping thats the problem. So if the wires to the starter (large battery and small ecu plug) arent the problems, then the only thing causing the starter not to start is the ignition wiring?

10-04-2010, 04:07 PM	#8
t12tninja Intake Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: texas Posts: 40	i would say check your grounds cause i had the same issue but i didnt do a swap but it sounds like my problem check all the grounds and mine was the ground in the steering colum

10-06-2010, 03:55 AM	#9
Conga1991 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 169	Where would the ground be for the steering column? also does the cam position sensor have to be timed? from what I was told you just put it in and make sure the bolt that holds it is in the middle??