Supra vs. Skyline

[Isphius]

Originally Posted by Supra2NR

well good luck wit em, hope thier right leg grows bigger than the left lol

that made me lol, haha. And thanks for the vote. The only thing people care about now is the EPA mpg rating. Like the gas is gonna cost more than your full coverage insurance and your big ass monthly payments when you go buy a new car. But im one to talk, that was one of the main reasons I bought my mr2 lol. But not cause i wana save gas overall, I just dont like wasting my pocket money on something that just gets turned into gasses and I never see it again. The real top 3 reasons were good on gas, reliable and low miles, and very very fun to drive. haha.

[Supra2NR]

cuz basically this is what pple that's not in the know think

they think, spending thousands of dollars tuning and modding old car
are more costly than the cost of ownership of new cars

well in turn, a finely tuned car, will have better reliability in the long run
with better internals, better plugs, pipes, hoses,and the other good stuff

and hey witout a turbo
a car with the right intake , and exhaust should have better milage than a car
in the same class that jus came from the showroom floor
but can still go a little faster lol

so thats
1 tuning cars
0 factory

[Spudboy]

I am one of those +45 guys... but I DO own wrenches and have some money. Being older and wiser with 'the need for speed' I realize there is a HUGE difference between being able to afford a trophy car that sits in the garage except on sunday around town 'show-off' drives, and an affordable car that you actually take to the track and scare yourself with. I prefer being scared, therefore can only afford my (I'm the original owner) 1988 Turbo Supra.

I agree with what somebody said in this forum about 'why have a car you don't drive properly'.

Many of us old timers waste money on cars they can barley afford, let alone afford to take it to the track for fear of scraching it, wrecking it while insurance wont cover track accidents, or breaking something you can't fix yourself because you dont have wrenches or time because you work to many hours to afford the payment.

On my first track day I realized there are plenty of people of all ages that DO 'get it'. Some of them started out in more expensive cars and realized you can have much more fun with an affordable car like a Miata or something. The fun is in making you the driver, max out whatever car you have. I found very few big ego's on the track...just humble car enthusiasts going as fast as they can in what they have. Even the ones with bigger budgets and better cars are just like all the rest on track. Having a blast.

If I had an extra 200k I might buy a 2007 Supra for the track. I don't so I will continue to race my 1988 until I hit the lottery.

"If you have NO FEAR...you're not going fast enough."

(I am No. 124, gray 1988 Supra)

[Supra2NR]

I am one of those +45 guys... but I DO own wrenches and have some money.

no, i wasnt pointing at 45+ guys,
i was aiming at arrogant bastards
that only thinks
that the one with the biggest wallet can go the fastest

and i was jus bitchin about the direction the car industry is going
"cars losing thier soul,
all show no go cars
the damn "paddle shifter" it should be called paddle SHITTER"
cuz you can take one while youre shifting
cuz it takes little or no focus at all

and youre right
pple should buy cars to drive them
not the car dictating the driver what to do

[Isphius]

Spudboy..since your the original owner...How was it owning that car in 1988? I always wondered what that would have been like. Owning my n/a in 1986. Cause it was faster than a lot of modern cars, let alone 1986 cars. Did you ever race anyone when you bought it? lol. the turbo supra in 87 was more expensive than the vette, and a little faster too i think. I thought that was cool. I think the ultimate car to have back then would have been a 911 turbo with its 5 sec 0-60 and 13 sec quarters, But who could afford one of those lol. Even the 944 turbo would have been pretty BA on the streets in the 80s. Andf so this post is on topic... The supra looks bettre than the new skiline, And any supra looks better than the respective year/generation of skyline. haha. That would be my determinging factor in buying one

[Spudboy]

Isphius - It was nice having that car in 1988. It was one of the fastest cars available at the time. It also was very tight, well appointed with all the cool features, very ahead of it's time. I did race a few people on the street and won. Raced a few in the mountains reaching speeds over 100 mph, I was scared after each race realizing what a stupid thing that was. DON'T push the limits on the street. I know that makes me sound like your father talking but think about it. On a track there is usually not much to hit, no cliffs to fly off, no on-coming traffic, and usually no idiot drivers. On the track you can REALLY push the limits and it's the most fun you'll ever have. The car was expensive for me at the time, close to 30k which in 1988 was probably like 50k 2006 dollars. For the money at that time it was the best car you could get. The vettes and camaro's back then pretty much sucked. Cheap rattle traps. US cars were still recovering from the late '70's piece of shit stage. I would love a new Z06 today but I have 2 kids I want to help through college first. (I still don't think very much of US cars except the new Vette)

Supra2NR - I was NOT insulted by your +45 comment. I aggree, more of us should work on our own cars. Unfortunatly many of us old guys get into the work too much trap and don't take time to smell the roses or get grease on our hands. Don't pass judgement on everybody that drives an expensive car as being an arrogant basstard that doesn't appreciate the car. Sure, there are some that are, but who cares about them. There are many that are true car enthusiasts like you and me. They just have more money or spend everything they do have on the car.

I noticed when I went to the track with my Supra for the first time that the track was the great equallizer/humbler. Even guys with killer fast and expensive cars understood the rewarding experience we ALL were having, no matter what we were driving. There was no arrogance in and around the track between drivers...only respect.
As to paddle shifters...I would take them in a heartbeat. Anything to improve my lap times. Sure, nothing like grabbing gears on the stick, but new technology can be good and is certainly a fact of life. But don't worry, our cars are almost old enough for the Classic Car Racing circuit. But I think maybe those guys are too careful. Because..."If you have NO FEAR...you're not going fast enough"

[burton51m]

Originally Posted by Spudboy

Isphius - It was nice having that car in 1988. It was one of the fastest cars available at the time. It also was very tight, well appointed with all the cool features, very ahead of it's time. I did race a few people on the street and won. Raced a few in the mountains reaching speeds over 100 mph, I was scared after each race realizing what a stupid thing that was. DON'T push the limits on the street. I know that makes me sound like your father talking but think about it. On a track there is usually not much to hit, no cliffs to fly off, no on-coming traffic, and usually no idiot drivers. On the track you can REALLY push the limits and it's the most fun you'll ever have. The car was expensive for me at the time, close to 30k which in 1988 was probably like 50k 2006 dollars. For the money at that time it was the best car you could get. The vettes and camaro's back then pretty much sucked. Cheap rattle traps. US cars were still recovering from the late '70's piece of shit stage. I would love a new Z06 today but I have 2 kids I want to help through college first. (I still don't think very much of US cars except the new Vette)

thats cool....



i compare my 91 supra to my friends 91 firebird and notice all the technology is ahead of its time also. cd player, climate control, security alarm, mirror defogger, TEMS, power seats with lumbar control. and it looks ALOT newer....all the gauges and dash ...everything.