Getting a Supra!

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 05:43 PM

Yeah I got on Beyond.ca and we figured it out. He's not gettin' a penny from me.

SupraMan1784 · 10-12-2005, 05:46 PM

good...that guy doesnt deserve anything...it sucks though cause u get excited about a great deal...only to find out..its nothing...i hate it...makes me real sad sometimes...cause i do...want an mk4 for a cheap price.. but we will never find it

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 05:53 PM

Just outta' curiosity, say I were to find a single-turbo'd MKIV...are the 2JZs in those the same as the twin-turbo'd MKIVs? B/c if they are, it wouldn't be all bad...I'll probably do single setup eventually anyway.

SupraMan1784 · 10-12-2005, 06:30 PM

well the mk4 turbos came from teh factory with teh twin turbos...the single turbo is a custom conversion, same motor...everything is pretty much teh same except that youre now running with one snail rather than two

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 10:57 PM

Hmmm...someone told me the MKIVs did come w/ a single turbo setup, but I guess they were wrong. And they said it came w/ 237bhp versus 220bhp on the n/a...so yeah I don't think a 17hp gain is legit. But anyway, what's the advantage of twins versus single? I know a lot about turbo'd cars, don't get me wrong...I have a '97 850 R Volvo and I just blew up the 15G, I've got a 16T on the way...couldn't get ahold of a used 19T, but anyway. My understanding is, twins spool faster which makes them better for street use, but for heavy drag purposes, a single can push more power since it's running off 6 cylinders versus 3. I always explained it to people using weight lifting...u might be able to bench 250 lbs. 20 times, but u won't get a 125-lb. dumbbell in each hand up 20 times. But again, I've seen 1000+rwhp Supras on twin T04s, and 800rwhp Supras on T72s, SP78s, GT70s, T88s, whatever. So...just wondering about that. I know single turbo setups are a helluva lot easier to tune, that's for sure.

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 11:03 PM

What I'm really looking for is a Supra w/ cosmetic work...body kit, wheels, rear spoiler, hood, interior stuff, gauges, that kind of thing. I really don't care if it's running on stock everything. Intake, downpipe, exhaust, EBC, and fuel cut controller and I could put down an easy 500rwhp. HP is cheap w/ these cars...but as w/ any car, body work is expensive, and I'd rather find a MKIV w/ a nice body kit and wheels along w/ it. I'd prefer black or red, but I'll take any color if it's priced right. It's gotta have a 6-speed and targa top or I don't want it. I found one on autotrader for $14,000 in Arizona, it's got a single conversion and has dyno'd at 525rwhp. Black w/ Veilside hood, body kit, stock rear wing (I love the stocker wings), stock wheels (blah!), but it's got a nice bit of engine work, and the guy seems legit. Not another BS scam deal. It's a '94...he's pulled off autotrader for me so I can think about it. I'm selling my car, I'm hoping to get $10-10.5K for it. It'd be a nice car to have tho. I dunno what I'd do w/ 525rwhp, I rode in my buddy's 385rwhp Z06 and it scared the shit outta' me.

Thecure634 · 10-13-2005, 07:07 AM

i think the twin turbo is to make the power smoother instead of getting all the power at once when just the one turbo kicks in. And from most of the high hp supras ive seen, they usually have a single turbo like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...81770043QQrdZ1

im not that great with cars so... and there never was a single turbo from the factory

Thecure634 · 10-13-2005, 07:14 AM

how much is he selling it for? and i wonder what's the cheapest anyone has gotten an mk4 tt for(that actually runs with decent miles)

SupraMan1784 · 10-13-2005, 03:17 PM

nah...from the factory twin turbos came with 320bhp, and teh n/a came with...225bhp i wanna say...might be a little off, twin spools faster only because the setup comes as a smaller turbo then a larger turbo..therefore the smaller turbo spools up first creating boost..then teh larger turbo spools up creating more boost, a single large turbo will obviously take longer to spool up due to its size and weight, i forgot what the twin turbo setup is called theres a name for it..but its not important...i also know u can upgrade the twins to the same size so they engage at the same time...kind of acts like one big turbo except that you now have two...twin turbos are better for circuit and street use because they spool faster...therefore giving you more power in teh lower rpms...more control in teh corners...since once the boost engages in teh single..u get a kick...imagine getting a boost kick while in mid corner..its a little unstable...the single gives u all the power all at one time while the twin gives u power in two increments, ive seen twin turbo setups make over 1000hp... and the same with single turbo setups...but then again 1000hp on teh street is kind of useless...and itll eat a lot of gas...theres no point in having 1000hp on the street unless u plan on racing everyone you see....thats why people limit themselves to around 600-800whp...because its more practical for the street...you still ahve an enormous amount of power...but its more controllable, i dunno from what ive seen both setups are pretty easy to tune, theyre almost the same except that you can have more power in teh lower part of the powerband with the twin turbos...and make sure you dont get scammed by that dude in az...what car are u selling for 10.5g's? i hope this answers some questions

10-12-2005, 05:46 PM	#2
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	good...that guy doesnt deserve anything...it sucks though cause u get excited about a great deal...only to find out..its nothing...i hate it...makes me real sad sometimes...cause i do...want an mk4 for a cheap price.. but we will never find it __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

10-12-2005, 06:30 PM	#4
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	well the mk4 turbos came from teh factory with teh twin turbos...the single turbo is a custom conversion, same motor...everything is pretty much teh same except that youre now running with one snail rather than two __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

10-13-2005, 03:17 PM	#9
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	nah...from the factory twin turbos came with 320bhp, and teh n/a came with...225bhp i wanna say...might be a little off, twin spools faster only because the setup comes as a smaller turbo then a larger turbo..therefore the smaller turbo spools up first creating boost..then teh larger turbo spools up creating more boost, a single large turbo will obviously take longer to spool up due to its size and weight, i forgot what the twin turbo setup is called theres a name for it..but its not important...i also know u can upgrade the twins to the same size so they engage at the same time...kind of acts like one big turbo except that you now have two...twin turbos are better for circuit and street use because they spool faster...therefore giving you more power in teh lower rpms...more control in teh corners...since once the boost engages in teh single..u get a kick...imagine getting a boost kick while in mid corner..its a little unstable...the single gives u all the power all at one time while the twin gives u power in two increments, ive seen twin turbo setups make over 1000hp... and the same with single turbo setups...but then again 1000hp on teh street is kind of useless...and itll eat a lot of gas...theres no point in having 1000hp on the street unless u plan on racing everyone you see....thats why people limit themselves to around 600-800whp...because its more practical for the street...you still ahve an enormous amount of power...but its more controllable, i dunno from what ive seen both setups are pretty easy to tune, theyre almost the same except that you can have more power in teh lower part of the powerband with the twin turbos...and make sure you dont get scammed by that dude in az...what car are u selling for 10.5g's? i hope this answers some questions __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

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10-12-2005, 05:43 PM	#1
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Yeah I got on Beyond.ca and we figured it out. He's not gettin' a penny from me.

10-12-2005, 05:53 PM	#3
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Just outta' curiosity, say I were to find a single-turbo'd MKIV...are the 2JZs in those the same as the twin-turbo'd MKIVs? B/c if they are, it wouldn't be all bad...I'll probably do single setup eventually anyway.

10-12-2005, 10:57 PM	#5
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Hmmm...someone told me the MKIVs did come w/ a single turbo setup, but I guess they were wrong. And they said it came w/ 237bhp versus 220bhp on the n/a...so yeah I don't think a 17hp gain is legit. But anyway, what's the advantage of twins versus single? I know a lot about turbo'd cars, don't get me wrong...I have a '97 850 R Volvo and I just blew up the 15G, I've got a 16T on the way...couldn't get ahold of a used 19T, but anyway. My understanding is, twins spool faster which makes them better for street use, but for heavy drag purposes, a single can push more power since it's running off 6 cylinders versus 3. I always explained it to people using weight lifting...u might be able to bench 250 lbs. 20 times, but u won't get a 125-lb. dumbbell in each hand up 20 times. But again, I've seen 1000+rwhp Supras on twin T04s, and 800rwhp Supras on T72s, SP78s, GT70s, T88s, whatever. So...just wondering about that. I know single turbo setups are a helluva lot easier to tune, that's for sure.

10-12-2005, 11:03 PM	#6
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	What I'm really looking for is a Supra w/ cosmetic work...body kit, wheels, rear spoiler, hood, interior stuff, gauges, that kind of thing. I really don't care if it's running on stock everything. Intake, downpipe, exhaust, EBC, and fuel cut controller and I could put down an easy 500rwhp. HP is cheap w/ these cars...but as w/ any car, body work is expensive, and I'd rather find a MKIV w/ a nice body kit and wheels along w/ it. I'd prefer black or red, but I'll take any color if it's priced right. It's gotta have a 6-speed and targa top or I don't want it. I found one on autotrader for $14,000 in Arizona, it's got a single conversion and has dyno'd at 525rwhp. Black w/ Veilside hood, body kit, stock rear wing (I love the stocker wings), stock wheels (blah!), but it's got a nice bit of engine work, and the guy seems legit. Not another BS scam deal. It's a '94...he's pulled off autotrader for me so I can think about it. I'm selling my car, I'm hoping to get $10-10.5K for it. It'd be a nice car to have tho. I dunno what I'd do w/ 525rwhp, I rode in my buddy's 385rwhp Z06 and it scared the shit outta' me.

10-13-2005, 07:07 AM	#7
Thecure634 Intake Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	i think the twin turbo is to make the power smoother instead of getting all the power at once when just the one turbo kicks in. And from most of the high hp supras ive seen, they usually have a single turbo like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...81770043QQrdZ1 im not that great with cars so... and there never was a single turbo from the factory

10-13-2005, 07:14 AM	#8
Thecure634 Intake Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	how much is he selling it for? and i wonder what's the cheapest anyone has gotten an mk4 tt for(that actually runs with decent miles)