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Old 10-14-2005, 08:19 PM   #21
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Insurance would be around $3,300 a year for me on the MKIV. M3s aren't heavy...for having a 3.2 liter I6 they only curb around 3150 lbs, my 850 is heavier than that. Stock they can break high 13s, mine's gonna have over 300bhp and won't run under a 13.7 or so...no traction, and plenty of power loss thru any automatic. I'd take an RX-7 for several reasons...they're rare, nobody has them, they have the badass rep, and they have some serious top end. But the motors love to blow every 50K miles. And I started thinking...who cares about speed? I mean I do, but if I had a Supra, I'd want $50K to put in it. So for now, an M3 would be great...BMW pimpage, great handling, great looks, reliable motor, 5-speed w/ RWD and LSD, and angel eyes. So...I think I'm gonna go w/ the M3.
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:36 PM   #22
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m3 is pretty good....out of all that i would go with the supra...if not tehn the rx7...then the m3..m3 is pretty pimp but u know wut they say about male bmw drivers....theyre insecure so they buy themselves a bmw hahaha, but its a good choice...wut year m3 by the way.....2005? those ones are hot... wait for the m6...thatll be insane...
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:11 AM   #23
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LOL, dude I drive a Volvo. I'm not insecure in any way. And yes I've put many cars in their place, the best being Mustang GTs and LT1s. They ain't much but it's still fun to beat them in a soccer mom car. That's runing 9psi on a bad tune and boost leak, I'm gonna be running 17psi on a bigger turbo w/ a good tune, so that's another 60-80bhp. RX-7s are sweet but the motors blow up all the time. M3...it'd be an E36, '95-99. If I had the money for a 2005 I'd buy a Supra instead. All I plan to do w/ the M3 is put 19" wheels on, staggered...lower it...BMW Motorsports CSL rear spoiler and front DTM splitter...clear smoked taillights...and underbodies, not sure on the color yet. I'm hoping to get one that's already got intake and exhaust, and Angel Eyes. I need to get on DTMpower and find out what I can do for more power on those things. Obviously a turbo, but they're the same motor in the E46s that put out 333bhp. So maybe there's a few options before the turbo. Turbo's definitely gonna be a T3/T4, adding 10psi or so would give it around 430bhp, or around 390rwhp. That'd be an easy 12-second car. In my book, 10 lbs. of weight per 1whp w/ good traction nets u a 13-flat, plus or minus a few tenths of a second.
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:11 PM   #24
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hey im not knockin on volvos...i remember when my dad used to shuffle me around in an 85 740 gle turbo..that thing was a truck...we sold it a couple years ago when it had 240,xxx miles on teh clock...i drove it once...it was heavy...and rwd...haha and it was a station wagon...turbo m3 would be hot kinda like that one dado from mischief has...except he basically tore his down to bare chassis for race/street purposes, yea as for DTMPower...dont they make u pay to be a member or somtin? might be wrong...though i must admit i do enjoy the mischief vids a lot...gotta watch teh new one...forgot wut it was called but its not really important, never seen teh staggered look on the m3, seen in on 240's all the time...im thinkin about gettin some rims too... though im not real sure what imma get...sometin..flashy but nothing... too fancy haha, a turbo m3 will def get you into the low 13's..maybe high 12's... gotta shave that weight first too...kinda like a supra...shave some weight and get a better time
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:15 PM   #25
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740s...my dad used to have an '88 740 turbo, now he's got a '90 740 turbo w/ the M46 tranny (4-speed manual w/ OD). They're heavy...they would about run anything over other than a diesel.

Dad's M3 is for real...puts down 458rwhp or so. Wouldn't need a turbo for low 13s tho, M3s w/ intake and exhaust can run low 13s...they're light, they hook up great, and BMW knows how to set their gears right. U can get approximately 260bhp w/ intake and exhaust...hook up a T3/T4B and run 10psi, u'd get another 170bhp added...10psi = .680 bar, X n/a power = 170bhp...+ 250bhp and that's 420bhp, 10% power loss gives u 378rwhp. That should hit 11s w/ drag radials or slicks.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:24 PM   #26
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yea m3's are pretty good tuning cars, though i dunno..im not a big drag race kinda guy..though the occasional highway or streetrace is ok..i dunno to me anything lower than 12secs doesnt really seem streetable..my car is setup currently as a drift/autocross/circuit racer type car, though my setup is adjustable..ive never really set it up for drag..i know at the current setup it runs low-mid13's and i know its faster if i adjust the suspension, maybe its preference..i mean my clutch is pretty hard right now and i know the more power you make the more likely you are to upgrade to a stiffer clutch to handle the power....maybe for me streetability is a factor...i find it hard to drive a car thats built for drag racing on the street everyday...i drove my cousins 00 supercharged mustang gt 5 spd for about a week...he makes around 700hp...with other upgrades and tuning...its fun when you drive it hard..but it sucks when u try and drive it conservatively cause all it wants to do is hit redline so you can hit the next gear...lemme know how u want to set it up..the m3 that is
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:58 PM   #27
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Yeah I know what ur'e talking about. Plus once u've got a car w/ a ton of HP, any kind of driving will wear it down more. So everyday driving on ur drag car just tears it up. Potholes eat the suspension, constant starting/stopping wears stuff out, etc. As far as the M3 goes, I'd like to eventually turbo it and make 400rwhp or so. Wouldn't need but 9-10psi to do that, but I don't wanna push the limits of the stock motor or rear end or tranny. I can put in a stiffer clutch, but I don't feel like messing w/ the motor or tranny. Plus I ain't got the money to do so. M3s are quick stock tho, and w/ some good tuning and slicks I could break 12s. They're super pimp tho, lower it 1.5" or so on 19x8.5s on the front and 19x9.5s on the back and it'd look pretty sick. Angel eye headlights w/ HID, and for cosmetics, I want this spoiler:



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There's a DTMpower.net video w/ a silver M3 w/ that rear spoiler and it looks amazing. I'd paint the splitter to match tho, the plastic look is cheap. I'd also wanna get red/clear or just clear taillight assemblies and smoke the clear sections to a mid-dark grey. LED lights in them so u never see the color until the bulbs light up.
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:07 PM   #28
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yea...i think if you make that much power you might have to change the clutch disk...since driving it hard might put too much stress on it, angel eyes are hot, though i dont like the spoiler...its too high for me, but the splitter is hot...you could probably get hte splitter in carbon fiber or fiberglass, im sure they make them...check out like hamann or ac schnitzer..they usually have nice cosmetic stuff, but it seems like its gonna be a good project...startin off wit some good power..makin a little more...always good
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