Getting a Supra!

SupraMan1784 · 10-12-2005, 05:25 PM

i hate to break it to you but its a scam...all the parts and labor he put into that car are worth more that 7600 let alone the 12500 he originally offered... that car has got to be worth at least 40g's...i was reading the guestbook of that guy's site...apparently someone else has also been usin this guys pics, so this david smith...is a scammer...false name...this deal is too good to be true and as much as i want it for that price...we'll never get it anytime soon, sorry bro...the car is located in cali and it doesnt look like the owner is selling anytime soon..even though he also has an m3 to play with....dont send this guy money...cut off contacts right now....and for some of the other members of this forum...if you dont mind u can post the guys email and contact info so we can harrass him hahaha...but i hope this info prevents you from losing 7600

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 05:43 PM

Yeah I got on Beyond.ca and we figured it out. He's not gettin' a penny from me.

SupraMan1784 · 10-12-2005, 05:46 PM

good...that guy doesnt deserve anything...it sucks though cause u get excited about a great deal...only to find out..its nothing...i hate it...makes me real sad sometimes...cause i do...want an mk4 for a cheap price.. but we will never find it

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 05:53 PM

Just outta' curiosity, say I were to find a single-turbo'd MKIV...are the 2JZs in those the same as the twin-turbo'd MKIVs? B/c if they are, it wouldn't be all bad...I'll probably do single setup eventually anyway.

SupraMan1784 · 10-12-2005, 06:30 PM

well the mk4 turbos came from teh factory with teh twin turbos...the single turbo is a custom conversion, same motor...everything is pretty much teh same except that youre now running with one snail rather than two

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 10:57 PM

Hmmm...someone told me the MKIVs did come w/ a single turbo setup, but I guess they were wrong. And they said it came w/ 237bhp versus 220bhp on the n/a...so yeah I don't think a 17hp gain is legit. But anyway, what's the advantage of twins versus single? I know a lot about turbo'd cars, don't get me wrong...I have a '97 850 R Volvo and I just blew up the 15G, I've got a 16T on the way...couldn't get ahold of a used 19T, but anyway. My understanding is, twins spool faster which makes them better for street use, but for heavy drag purposes, a single can push more power since it's running off 6 cylinders versus 3. I always explained it to people using weight lifting...u might be able to bench 250 lbs. 20 times, but u won't get a 125-lb. dumbbell in each hand up 20 times. But again, I've seen 1000+rwhp Supras on twin T04s, and 800rwhp Supras on T72s, SP78s, GT70s, T88s, whatever. So...just wondering about that. I know single turbo setups are a helluva lot easier to tune, that's for sure.

iwantasupra · 10-12-2005, 11:03 PM

What I'm really looking for is a Supra w/ cosmetic work...body kit, wheels, rear spoiler, hood, interior stuff, gauges, that kind of thing. I really don't care if it's running on stock everything. Intake, downpipe, exhaust, EBC, and fuel cut controller and I could put down an easy 500rwhp. HP is cheap w/ these cars...but as w/ any car, body work is expensive, and I'd rather find a MKIV w/ a nice body kit and wheels along w/ it. I'd prefer black or red, but I'll take any color if it's priced right. It's gotta have a 6-speed and targa top or I don't want it. I found one on autotrader for $14,000 in Arizona, it's got a single conversion and has dyno'd at 525rwhp. Black w/ Veilside hood, body kit, stock rear wing (I love the stocker wings), stock wheels (blah!), but it's got a nice bit of engine work, and the guy seems legit. Not another BS scam deal. It's a '94...he's pulled off autotrader for me so I can think about it. I'm selling my car, I'm hoping to get $10-10.5K for it. It'd be a nice car to have tho. I dunno what I'd do w/ 525rwhp, I rode in my buddy's 385rwhp Z06 and it scared the shit outta' me.

Thecure634 · 10-13-2005, 07:07 AM

i think the twin turbo is to make the power smoother instead of getting all the power at once when just the one turbo kicks in. And from most of the high hp supras ive seen, they usually have a single turbo like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...81770043QQrdZ1

im not that great with cars so... and there never was a single turbo from the factory

Thecure634 · 10-13-2005, 07:14 AM

how much is he selling it for? and i wonder what's the cheapest anyone has gotten an mk4 tt for(that actually runs with decent miles)

10-12-2005, 05:25 PM	#1
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	i hate to break it to you but its a scam...all the parts and labor he put into that car are worth more that 7600 let alone the 12500 he originally offered... that car has got to be worth at least 40g's...i was reading the guestbook of that guy's site...apparently someone else has also been usin this guys pics, so this david smith...is a scammer...false name...this deal is too good to be true and as much as i want it for that price...we'll never get it anytime soon, sorry bro...the car is located in cali and it doesnt look like the owner is selling anytime soon..even though he also has an m3 to play with....dont send this guy money...cut off contacts right now....and for some of the other members of this forum...if you dont mind u can post the guys email and contact info so we can harrass him hahaha...but i hope this info prevents you from losing 7600 __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

10-12-2005, 05:46 PM	#3
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	good...that guy doesnt deserve anything...it sucks though cause u get excited about a great deal...only to find out..its nothing...i hate it...makes me real sad sometimes...cause i do...want an mk4 for a cheap price.. but we will never find it __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

10-12-2005, 06:30 PM	#5
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	well the mk4 turbos came from teh factory with teh twin turbos...the single turbo is a custom conversion, same motor...everything is pretty much teh same except that youre now running with one snail rather than two __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

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10-12-2005, 05:43 PM	#2
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Yeah I got on Beyond.ca and we figured it out. He's not gettin' a penny from me.

10-12-2005, 05:53 PM	#4
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Just outta' curiosity, say I were to find a single-turbo'd MKIV...are the 2JZs in those the same as the twin-turbo'd MKIVs? B/c if they are, it wouldn't be all bad...I'll probably do single setup eventually anyway.

10-12-2005, 10:57 PM	#6
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	Hmmm...someone told me the MKIVs did come w/ a single turbo setup, but I guess they were wrong. And they said it came w/ 237bhp versus 220bhp on the n/a...so yeah I don't think a 17hp gain is legit. But anyway, what's the advantage of twins versus single? I know a lot about turbo'd cars, don't get me wrong...I have a '97 850 R Volvo and I just blew up the 15G, I've got a 16T on the way...couldn't get ahold of a used 19T, but anyway. My understanding is, twins spool faster which makes them better for street use, but for heavy drag purposes, a single can push more power since it's running off 6 cylinders versus 3. I always explained it to people using weight lifting...u might be able to bench 250 lbs. 20 times, but u won't get a 125-lb. dumbbell in each hand up 20 times. But again, I've seen 1000+rwhp Supras on twin T04s, and 800rwhp Supras on T72s, SP78s, GT70s, T88s, whatever. So...just wondering about that. I know single turbo setups are a helluva lot easier to tune, that's for sure.

10-12-2005, 11:03 PM	#7
iwantasupra Stock Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14	What I'm really looking for is a Supra w/ cosmetic work...body kit, wheels, rear spoiler, hood, interior stuff, gauges, that kind of thing. I really don't care if it's running on stock everything. Intake, downpipe, exhaust, EBC, and fuel cut controller and I could put down an easy 500rwhp. HP is cheap w/ these cars...but as w/ any car, body work is expensive, and I'd rather find a MKIV w/ a nice body kit and wheels along w/ it. I'd prefer black or red, but I'll take any color if it's priced right. It's gotta have a 6-speed and targa top or I don't want it. I found one on autotrader for $14,000 in Arizona, it's got a single conversion and has dyno'd at 525rwhp. Black w/ Veilside hood, body kit, stock rear wing (I love the stocker wings), stock wheels (blah!), but it's got a nice bit of engine work, and the guy seems legit. Not another BS scam deal. It's a '94...he's pulled off autotrader for me so I can think about it. I'm selling my car, I'm hoping to get $10-10.5K for it. It'd be a nice car to have tho. I dunno what I'd do w/ 525rwhp, I rode in my buddy's 385rwhp Z06 and it scared the shit outta' me.

10-13-2005, 07:07 AM	#8
Thecure634 Intake Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	i think the twin turbo is to make the power smoother instead of getting all the power at once when just the one turbo kicks in. And from most of the high hp supras ive seen, they usually have a single turbo like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...81770043QQrdZ1 im not that great with cars so... and there never was a single turbo from the factory

10-13-2005, 07:14 AM	#9
Thecure634 Intake Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	how much is he selling it for? and i wonder what's the cheapest anyone has gotten an mk4 tt for(that actually runs with decent miles)