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Old 11-16-2011, 05:03 PM   #1
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Have so far the turbo the manifold,1200cc injectors for e85 new lamda sensor,clutch kit just waiting for the flywheel.
2 fuel pumps,fuel rail with FPR with aftermarket managment starting it soon ANY COMMENTS cant wait to see what power she can make.what degree timing do you run normally on the supra.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:50 AM   #2
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Have so far the turbo the manifold,1200cc injectors for e85 new lamda sensor,clutch kit just waiting for the flywheel.
2 fuel pumps,fuel rail with FPR with aftermarket managment starting it soon ANY COMMENTS cant wait to see what power she can make.what degree timing do you run normally on the supra.
Unless you're spraying nitrous, you don't need to modify the oem TT timing curve...at least not right away.

Again, the oem intake plenum is just fine for a 67mm turbo. You only need to change it out for 750rwhp+ (6spd) applications. If you want to modify the oem plenum, just block off the EGR valve (us-spec mkiv tt's only).

Are those fuel components part of a kit that you purchased? If not, be very careful running the line(s) and wires through the fuel tank cover. It'll also be a lot of fun figuring out the line lengths and all the right fittings to use. Oh, will you be running a center return or a return at one or both ends of the rail?
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:23 PM   #3
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got a 20l fuel cell for the car and gone use center return line with the stock intake any advise on the return.Is it better to run a fuel line on each pump to the fuel rail.
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got a 20l fuel cell for the car and gone use center return line with the stock intake any advise on the return.Is it better to run a fuel line on each pump to the fuel rail.
It's better to stick with the oem fuel tank if you're only running a 700rwhp turbo. It's better to purchase an entire complete fuel kit than trying to piece-meal one together yourself. And all other things being equal, one line to the rail is better than two...but this isn't the least expensive way to achieve a near-equivalent result in the Mkiv TT.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:48 AM   #5
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Why whould you say the fuel cell isnt a good idee i would like a 1000rwhp supra but dont have the money to spend on one time. im also making my own flywheel.What do you mean with(but this isn't the least expensive way to achieve a near-equivalent result in the supra)thanks for the advise so far
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Why whould you say the fuel cell isnt a good idee...
Gosh, please re-read my post. I did not say that. Here's what I said:
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It's better to stick with the oem fuel tank if you're only running a 700rwhp turbo...
Again, IF you are only running a 700rwhp turbo, you'll most definitely be in the 10s at the drag strip. Most drag strip regulations are totally fine with running the oem fuel tank at those speeds. Also, most Mkiv Supra Turbo modders like to keep their cars as streetable as possible. Having a 10 second completely streetable street car is a 'badge of honor' for many Supra owners. Consider this: getting (for example) a 'rustang' into the 10s may be cheap, but it's pretty much useless for getting your son/daughter to daycare if you mod it that heavily. In other words, why get rid of the oem 17 gallon fuel tank if you don't have to?

On the other hand, I'd never argue against safety. Although at 10 seconds I believe your oem fuel tank is sufficiently safe, go ahead and put that fuel cell into it, since you really never can be 'safe enough':
http://www.fuelsafe.com/white_papers/fuel-cell-facts.html
...and weld a 12-point roll cage in there, a Hans device, and dual parachutes too, while you're at it.
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...i would like a 1000rwhp supra but dont have the money to spend on one time....
I wish you had told me this sooner. It's tough for me to provide accurate advice when the goal is unclear.
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...im also making my own flywheel....
Awesome - do you have any pictures that you can post? I'm also very interested in why you're doing this...not the least of which reason is that there are so many good, relatively affordable choices out there for one-piece solid steel flywheels and two-piece billet+steel flywheels.

I'm curious: Will your flywheel be able to support multiple clutch disks? You'll never be able to reliably&repeatedly hold 1000rwhp with a single disk clutch, no matter what it's made of.
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...What do you mean with(but this isn't the least expensive way to achieve a near-equivalent result in the supra)...
The least expensive way to build a 1000rwhp fuel system (6spd) is to take maximal advantage of the oem fuel line and the oem fuel return line. If you independently analyze the question: "what is better, single or dual fuel lines", you miss the whole point of doing as much as possible with what is already there, and building a system that will meet your needs while being cost-effective. ALL of the off-the-shelf 100%-complete fuel systems have already considered this in their designs. Here's an example:
http://www.spracingonline.com/store/...93-98_Supra/17
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...thanks for the advise so far
Anytime...happy to help.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:34 AM   #7
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Was just asking about the 2fuel lines you never now maybe you guys do things different becuase your 1/4 mile times is much faster then our times in SA.
What i did with the clutch kit is use the old clutch centre piece and made it a 5 puck button and the pressure plate i took in and made the pressure more on it when it brakes i would like to go to multiple disk.On the flywheel im using the same design as the stock flywheel to get more weigth out of the aluminium flywheel,and wil be able to modify the flywheel later for the multiple clutch kit if it doesn't work i wil just buy a clutch kit with flywheel.Wil sent you pics as soon as its finish.
The reason why i want to use the fuel cell is it can take 2 big external pumps with out any hassle with a new feed and return lines, i can also use the stock fuel tank with pump to supply a surge tank and use 2 pumps from the surge to supply.
I like trying to build things my self if it doesnt work i wil safe up and buy a brand name would like it if my supra can do 10s but it wil take time.
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