Everybody goes Turbo here - Can N/A Supras be fast?

lifesnotfair · 12-12-2005, 11:20 PM

And before anyone mentions it: Yes, I did some research.. couldn't find much, most people just go turbo. But I did some and found out stuff, like the thing about the exhaust, possibly "mild cams" (as the text described it), but not much at all.

j3pz · 12-12-2005, 11:30 PM

bpm i/h/e possibly valves and lexus afmsounds good to me

hangsupra · 12-12-2005, 11:31 PM

well think about my mk2 supra.... n/a before i drop turbo on... i hit 15.1 on my mk2 stock... nothing... no exhaust... n ect... nothing... basic stock.... n i hit 15.1 on 1/4mile.... n happy with it.... n now... i happy with my setup on my mk2 supra... hehe... cause got turbo now... haha...

Jebus · 12-13-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hangsupra

well think about my mk2 supra.... n/a before i drop turbo on... i hit 15.1 on my mk2 stock... nothing... no exhaust... n ect... nothing... basic stock.... n i hit 15.1 on 1/4mile.... n happy with it.... n now... i happy with my setup on my mk2 supra... hehe... cause got turbo now... haha...

Can someone de-code this for me.

About the NA 7MGE, they do go well. As you said, 200Hp is'nt bad, the car is heavy, but not that heavy, its around 1580 which is OK. I have a manual so cant say much about the auto but i'd imagine you'd get more out of it with a manual. I have a K&N filter, 2 and half inch exhaust form cat back (really only need 2 and a quarter), my engine has been fully re-built, i use Iridium plugs and top gun leads. My engine would be putting out a bit more than stock. The stock cams are pretty good, they seem to make good use of the engines power, they are different from the turbo cams. Dont be put off the NA by the turbo owners, you cant blame them for loving there turbos, the power feels great, turbo cars are addictive.

. If your engine is healthy, you will probably be happy with it. They go well and are definately not slow, maintain it and they stay strong.

Isphius · 12-13-2005, 01:29 PM

I own an 86/88 NA, the previous owner bought a wrecked car...swapped a lot of parts...so im not sure what on the car is 88 and 86, but the tittle is 86 and the engine/trans is an 88 im sure of that, anyway sure the stock motor is great..it has a really nice powerband, and it runs good all the time. The thing that impressed me the most about it is the internals, and how well made these motors are. most of the parts in these motors would be a huge upgrade on some other motors, like american v8s for instance. But the thing that sukcs about that is, the motor is already at a pretty high hp/liter, which makes it kinda hard to modify any further. thats why the turbos are so poular. But sure, do a header, exhasut, intake, and try to work out a bigger mass air flow sensor off a lexus car like j3pz said. Should be able to get it up to about 230-240hp. the popular/good way to make a lot of power out of an NA motor is insane compression and race gas, and big cams. but that defeats your economical idea. goodluck with the car!

kwnate · 12-13-2005, 02:13 PM

Lexus afm won't do any good... IIRC the housing is the same size with different electronics. People buy it and put larger injectors on turbo models to trick the computer into thinking it has less air going through, so the computer won't cut off fuel at 11psi. I think I explained that correctly but its 6am...

lifesnotfair · 12-14-2005, 03:56 AM

I bought some rims today, they look insanely nice! Although car is too high, need to lower it a bit (stock suspension).

Anyone knows how thin is stock exhaust?

kwnate · 12-14-2005, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lifesnotfair

I bought some rims today, they look insanely nice! Although car is too high, need to lower it a bit (stock suspension).

Anyone knows how thin is stock exhaust?

POST UP SOME PICS!!

j3pz · 12-14-2005, 04:07 AM

believe it to be 2and a half

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebus

Can someone de-code this for me.

About the NA 7MGE, they do go well. As you said, 200Hp is'nt bad, the car is heavy, but not that heavy, its around 1580 which is OK. I have a manual so cant say much about the auto but i'd imagine you'd get more out of it with a manual. I have a K&N filter, 2 and half inch exhaust form cat back (really only need 2 and a quarter), my engine has been fully re-built, i use Iridium plugs and top gun leads. My engine would be putting out a bit more than stock. The stock cams are pretty good, they seem to make good use of the engines power, they are different from the turbo cams. Dont be put off the NA by the turbo owners, you cant blame them for loving there turbos, the power feels great, turbo cars are addictive.

. If your engine is healthy, you will probably be happy with it. They go well and are definately not slow, maintain it and they stay strong.

do you mean 1580lb? its more like 3580lb. must be typo

Jebus · 12-14-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3pz

believe it to be 2and a half

do you mean 1580lb? its more like 3580lb. must be typo

Sorry dude, i forgot, Its Kgs. Im Australian, thats what we use, not lbs.

12-12-2005, 11:20 PM	#1
lifesnotfair 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 169	Oh! And before anyone mentions it: Yes, I did some research.. couldn't find much, most people just go turbo. But I did some and found out stuff, like the thing about the exhaust, possibly "mild cams" (as the text described it), but not much at all.

12-12-2005, 11:30 PM	#2
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	bpm i/h/e possibly valves and lexus afmsounds good to me __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

12-13-2005, 02:13 PM	#6
kwnate SP58GT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 633	Lexus afm won't do any good... IIRC the housing is the same size with different electronics. People buy it and put larger injectors on turbo models to trick the computer into thinking it has less air going through, so the computer won't cut off fuel at 11psi. I think I explained that correctly but its 6am... __________________ Nate

12-14-2005, 03:56 AM	#7
lifesnotfair 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 169	Hey! I bought some rims today, they look insanely nice! Although car is too high, need to lower it a bit (stock suspension). Anyone knows how thin is stock exhaust?

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12-12-2005, 11:31 PM	#3
hangsupra 12psi boost Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 209 area in cali. Posts: 397	well think about my mk2 supra.... n/a before i drop turbo on... i hit 15.1 on my mk2 stock... nothing... no exhaust... n ect... nothing... basic stock.... n i hit 15.1 on 1/4mile.... n happy with it.... n now... i happy with my setup on my mk2 supra... hehe... cause got turbo now... haha...

12-13-2005, 01:29 PM	#5
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	I own an 86/88 NA, the previous owner bought a wrecked car...swapped a lot of parts...so im not sure what on the car is 88 and 86, but the tittle is 86 and the engine/trans is an 88 im sure of that, anyway sure the stock motor is great..it has a really nice powerband, and it runs good all the time. The thing that impressed me the most about it is the internals, and how well made these motors are. most of the parts in these motors would be a huge upgrade on some other motors, like american v8s for instance. But the thing that sukcs about that is, the motor is already at a pretty high hp/liter, which makes it kinda hard to modify any further. thats why the turbos are so poular. But sure, do a header, exhasut, intake, and try to work out a bigger mass air flow sensor off a lexus car like j3pz said. Should be able to get it up to about 230-240hp. the popular/good way to make a lot of power out of an NA motor is insane compression and race gas, and big cams. but that defeats your economical idea. goodluck with the car!