HI! just want some suggestions!!

Blackdog · 09-01-2009, 08:57 PM

Hello there all! i just purchased an 1987 toyota supra and am super excited! i have been looking for one for years in my area and finally got it. Its an MA70 7m-gte turbo 1987 supra(duh haha).

My question is on what upgrades to get? eventually id like 400-500 poines being pushed from it. My first upgrade will be 3'' high flow exhaust. Thats pretty simple. But whats next? what kind of intake should i get? Intercooler? fuel system? and eventually which turbo is best to upgrade too? Also i will be putting a new headgasket on.

The car is completely stock and ready to be overhauled. Im not rich, but definatly wanna push it. Thanks in advance!

87mk111 · 09-02-2009, 02:19 PM

This is what I would do If mine was a turbo:

Lexus AFM with 550 cc injectors
HKS blow off valve
Tial 38mm wastegate
HKS Boost Controller
HKS Intercooler and piping
HKS Head gasket
HKS Intake
MIne's Ecu
HKS Fuel Cut Defencer
ACT clutch

With these upgrades, youll be able to run 12 to 15 psi safely on the stock turbo. Not sure how much power youll be puttin out, but it will be an increase over stock power.

Blackdog · 09-02-2009, 08:48 PM

wow thanks man. Thats what i wanted. I think i will put most those parts on my current car. but i think im going to buy a new engine cause it has alot of miles before i put a T4 turbo on it.

Thanks!

Is greddy a good brand? just wondering, I kno HKS is top of the line, is Greddy the low end?

kwnate · 09-02-2009, 11:59 PM

Greddy and HKS are on par with each other both quality and price. Buy quality parts that are proven and the most important upgrade is a standalone and an expert to tune it which may be hard in Wyoming.

Blackdog · 09-03-2009, 02:34 AM

Greddy seems cheaper to me for some reason.(in price) and yes i doubt there is anyone in wyoming, but i live close to montana and idaho so im hoping to find a place there.

Also my speedometer dosent wrk, i tore the dash off and wires and connections seem fine. But dose anyone kno were the speed sensor is?

btwilson86 · 09-03-2009, 07:21 AM

Cable driven speedo, so no sensor. There is a 3 piece cable running from the right side of the transmission up to the gauge cluster. The "pigtail" looking portion of the cable (on the transmission) is known to break somewhat easily, so that may be a place to start looking. Also, in my personal experience, it has been somewhat difficult sometimes to align and properly seat the speedo cable with the back of the speedometer. Might not be making the connection there.

BTW, I can tell you that you won't find anyone in Billings MT that can do any tuning on anything but a diesel truck. Everything people seem to drive here is diesel or an American V8 of some sort.

Blackdog · 09-03-2009, 05:01 PM

yes i wld agree about the V8 thing, not that thats always a bad thing. Well where did you get your tuned? if at all, im in powell. And on the speedo cable, can i buy the parts for the differant cables and put them in myself? if so do you kno part #'s?? and i was reading around a bit and it sounded like that was for the auto trans, i have 5 speed. just a thought, dont kno if its any differant.

Also dose intercooler pipe size make a big differance? 2.5 vs 3?

btwilson86 · 09-04-2009, 02:21 AM

I haven't had my supra tuned, am still running a mostly stock setup (cone filter and 3 in exhaust are my only upgrades). I can't say for a fact that the speedo cable is the same on a 5 spd, as I have only messed with it on automatics. I would think it would be a similar design though.

There's a handy little website I've found before for Toyota Part #'s, I believe it was toyodiy.com. All you need is your VIN number and you can look at drawings of various parts of the Supra and click on the part you need and it'll give you the factory part number as well as an estimated cost. Pretty handy site, I've used it a few times.

As for the intercooler pipes, I can't tell you from personal experience whether or not it's a good upgrade, so hopefully someone else on here can give some input on that.

Blackdog · 09-04-2009, 02:41 AM

Oh i see, you'd think there wld be a shop ther. And i will definatly check put that site, thanks for your help.

And i hope someone will help me with the intercooler bit, and also is it possible for my supra to be burning coolant? If so wat are the symptons??

btwilson86 · 09-04-2009, 06:05 AM

Burning coolant is not a good sign... If it is, you will typically see white smoke come out of the tailpipe, could see some overheating issues, maybe air in the cooling system, unexplainable loss of coolant. Typically, if you're burning coolant in a Supra, you've got a blown head gasket

09-01-2009, 08:57 PM	#1
Blackdog Intake Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Powell, Wyoming Posts: 32	HI! just want some suggestions!! Hello there all! i just purchased an 1987 toyota supra and am super excited! i have been looking for one for years in my area and finally got it. Its an MA70 7m-gte turbo 1987 supra(duh haha). My question is on what upgrades to get? eventually id like 400-500 poines being pushed from it. My first upgrade will be 3'' high flow exhaust. Thats pretty simple. But whats next? what kind of intake should i get? Intercooler? fuel system? and eventually which turbo is best to upgrade too? Also i will be putting a new headgasket on. The car is completely stock and ready to be overhauled. Im not rich, but definatly wanna push it. Thanks in advance!

09-02-2009, 02:19 PM	#2
87mk111 3" Exhaust Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: akron, ohio Posts: 226	This is what I would do If mine was a turbo: Lexus AFM with 550 cc injectors HKS blow off valve Tial 38mm wastegate HKS Boost Controller HKS Intercooler and piping HKS Head gasket HKS Intake MIne's Ecu HKS Fuel Cut Defencer ACT clutch With these upgrades, youll be able to run 12 to 15 psi safely on the stock turbo. Not sure how much power youll be puttin out, but it will be an increase over stock power. __________________ 87 N/A 5spd BHG, soon to be gte with r154

09-02-2009, 08:48 PM	#3
Blackdog Intake Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Powell, Wyoming Posts: 32	wow thanks man. Thats what i wanted. I think i will put most those parts on my current car. but i think im going to buy a new engine cause it has alot of miles before i put a T4 turbo on it. Thanks! Is greddy a good brand? just wondering, I kno HKS is top of the line, is Greddy the low end? Last edited by Blackdog; 09-02-2009 at 09:05 PM.

09-02-2009, 11:59 PM	#4
kwnate SP58GT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 633	Greddy and HKS are on par with each other both quality and price. Buy quality parts that are proven and the most important upgrade is a standalone and an expert to tune it which may be hard in Wyoming. __________________ Nate

09-03-2009, 07:21 AM	#6
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Cable driven speedo, so no sensor. There is a 3 piece cable running from the right side of the transmission up to the gauge cluster. The "pigtail" looking portion of the cable (on the transmission) is known to break somewhat easily, so that may be a place to start looking. Also, in my personal experience, it has been somewhat difficult sometimes to align and properly seat the speedo cable with the back of the speedometer. Might not be making the connection there. BTW, I can tell you that you won't find anyone in Billings MT that can do any tuning on anything but a diesel truck. Everything people seem to drive here is diesel or an American V8 of some sort. __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

09-03-2009, 02:34 AM	#5
Blackdog Intake Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Powell, Wyoming Posts: 32	Greddy seems cheaper to me for some reason.(in price) and yes i doubt there is anyone in wyoming, but i live close to montana and idaho so im hoping to find a place there. Also my speedometer dosent wrk, i tore the dash off and wires and connections seem fine. But dose anyone kno were the speed sensor is?

09-03-2009, 05:01 PM	#7
Blackdog Intake Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Powell, Wyoming Posts: 32	yes i wld agree about the V8 thing, not that thats always a bad thing. Well where did you get your tuned? if at all, im in powell. And on the speedo cable, can i buy the parts for the differant cables and put them in myself? if so do you kno part #'s?? and i was reading around a bit and it sounded like that was for the auto trans, i have 5 speed. just a thought, dont kno if its any differant. Also dose intercooler pipe size make a big differance? 2.5 vs 3? Last edited by Blackdog; 09-03-2009 at 05:32 PM.

09-04-2009, 02:21 AM	#8
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	I haven't had my supra tuned, am still running a mostly stock setup (cone filter and 3 in exhaust are my only upgrades). I can't say for a fact that the speedo cable is the same on a 5 spd, as I have only messed with it on automatics. I would think it would be a similar design though. There's a handy little website I've found before for Toyota Part #'s, I believe it was toyodiy.com. All you need is your VIN number and you can look at drawings of various parts of the Supra and click on the part you need and it'll give you the factory part number as well as an estimated cost. Pretty handy site, I've used it a few times. As for the intercooler pipes, I can't tell you from personal experience whether or not it's a good upgrade, so hopefully someone else on here can give some input on that. __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

09-04-2009, 02:41 AM	#9
Blackdog Intake Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Powell, Wyoming Posts: 32	Oh i see, you'd think there wld be a shop ther. And i will definatly check put that site, thanks for your help. And i hope someone will help me with the intercooler bit, and also is it possible for my supra to be burning coolant? If so wat are the symptons??

09-04-2009, 06:05 AM	#10
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Burning coolant is not a good sign... If it is, you will typically see white smoke come out of the tailpipe, could see some overheating issues, maybe air in the cooling system, unexplainable loss of coolant. Typically, if you're burning coolant in a Supra, you've got a blown head gasket __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

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