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Old 04-09-2009, 06:47 PM   #1
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Default 89 Supra Starter Issue, anyone with pictures?

Got an 89 NA Supra 5spd. that has had some starting issues, lately had the no click symptom when you turn the key. Took it into a mech who said my ground wire on the battery was bad, fixed that and no problems since. Tested starter and replaced battery to be safe, starter supposedly fine.

Today started the car up and it did so great, then drove for about 5 minutes, got gas & tried to turn car back on and nothing, no click is back again! Lucky they had a jump box and that seemed to help, although the mech who helped out said he also heard that no click right before it kicked over and said my starter might be ready to go.

Anyone thinking I might need to remove the starter and replace the contacts in there with these,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260388734410

Also does anyone have really good and up close pictures or youtube videos of the bolts that I am going to have to remove to get this thing off, I've heard it's a PITA, so I have already ordered the extension and wobbler sets from Harbor Freight.

Any other advice you can give me before I tackle this would help.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 04-10-2009, 05:58 AM   #2
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I've never understood why people say they are hard to get off, they are a piece of piss.

Lay on your back under the car with your head under the sump and your legs down the length of the drive shaft. reach your left hand around the top of the bellhousing (between the firewall and block) and feel the bolts, they are 12mm from memory (might be 14) pass a spanner up with ur right hand to ur left hand, put it on the bolt using ur left hand, hold it there while you pull on the spanner with ur right hand, easy.

Failing this, lay on the rocker covers and reach down to the start motor, two bolts, thats it.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:55 AM   #3
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You can not reach around the bell housing from underneath this car. What are you talking about? Must be some major differences between yours in your country and ours.Ours are left side drivers that side has a hell of a lot of stuff there like the Brake master and tons of other stuff we can't get past.

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Old 05-09-2010, 02:24 AM   #4
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I'd start by doing some more checking. It's possible you still have a ground problem. I would check all the ground, make sure they're are all clean and rust free.

First off safety : before doing this next step. Car needs to be in Neutral E-brake on and you Not in front of the car.

One good way to check the starter, is when it you have a no start and a good battery, is reach done to the starter, take the small connector off the starter, find a piece of wire and a female spade connector, crimp the spade onto the length of wire, put the spade on the starter terminal, take the other end of the wire and touch it to the positive terminal. The starter should engage, if it doesn't it could still be a bad ground or a bad cable from the battery to the starter.

If the starter turns over, you need to check, The starter relay, Theft Deterrent Computer, wiring, etc

A good technician should check all of those when they get a car in with a no start.

There is a lot involved.

Here is the Diagram for Starting from a 89: http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...x?S=Main&P=038

And the starter is cake to replace. You just need a couple wrenches, a hr or so, and a beer or two


Let us know how it goes
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Ok thanks for the response. The Starter is bad or I have broken teeth on the flywheel it just spins and wines does not engage.

I am working on an 87 Supra, so I am not sure if you are familiar with this car but it is no piece of cake you can not get to the starter. It is damn near impossible without removing the head or manifolds, dropping the trans. The top bolt is inaccessible. I have torn my right arm up trying to get to it. I need real information on how to get to this bolt out. I am working on an American Supra. I need specifics on what wayt to get to it and what tools or what to take off. I have worked on Supras for the past 20 years but have not run into this till now. THIS SUCKS! IT IS A HORRIBLE LOCATION I CAN"T REACH. I need help please. Thanks
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batmmann, check your other posts for the long response. I'm just chiming in here to tell you that the directions I gave you I have used on a 87 Turbo, 87 N/A, and 88 N/A, all US spec
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Ok thanks for the response. The Starter is bad or I have broken teeth on the flywheel it just spins and wines does not engage.

I am working on an 87 Supra, so I am not sure if you are familiar with this car but it is no piece of cake you can not get to the starter. It is damn near impossible without removing the head or manifolds, dropping the trans. The top bolt is inaccessible. I have torn my right arm up trying to get to it. I need real information on how to get to this bolt out. I am working on an American Supra. I need specifics on what wayt to get to it and what tools or what to take off. I have worked on Supras for the past 20 years but have not run into this till now. THIS SUCKS! IT IS A HORRIBLE LOCATION I CAN"T REACH. I need help please. Thanks
Ever had a trans out? You have to take the starter bolts out to get the trans out. Buy a set of Gear Wrenches make it a little easier.
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Yes I have dropped toyota trans before but never like this. Mostly trucks and the like I have never seen anything positioned so badly as this. You would think something as essential as a starter would have been designed so you could replace it. I have to remove the bottom plastic cover and then look at it again. This might be going to the shop or this thing might become a parts car. I can't afford a big repair bill. I am being told to just throw a wrench on the front bolt, but I can't even reach it.

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