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Old 12-29-2005, 02:15 AM   #11
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oh noesssssss... are we having a small debate?? hehe

ya wanted to see 1uz... well here's one
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Wow whose is that? That looks pretty nice.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:22 AM   #12
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it's a friend of mine from here in NZ

it built it from the ground up really awesome
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:12 AM   #13
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it's a friend of mine from here in NZ

it built it from the ground up really awesome
NZ? New zealand? I didnt know they have supras there. You seriously live there? Do you have any pics? You must have seen lord of the rings people there.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:29 AM   #14
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lmfao

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1. altho nz is small... we're not that small that we live next to the city that did lord of the rings LOL (no i haven't seen any of them lol)

2. of course we have supras!!!! haha.... check out my sig and you'll see my supra

here in nz we get the japanese cars so rhd and all the options and digital dash that you wish you guys had
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1. altho nz is small... we're not that small that we live next to the city that did lord of the rings LOL (no i haven't seen any of them lol)

2. of course we have supras!!!! haha.... check out my sig and you'll see my supra

here in nz we get the japanese cars so rhd and all the options and digital dash that you wish you guys had
Ok thanks for the tease. You are going to get spanked now haha. Well you have a nice supra. I am going to japan in about 2 years. There I will buy a 2000 twin turbo supra and when I return to the US I am getting the 07 R35. I have been saving for years for the supra and I will have enough money to get the R35 too.
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Again your argument is once again flawed. You cant equivocate a 8cylinder motor to a 6 cylinder one. I am talking about v6/I6. Not V8/I6. And I know all about the V8 as my dad has a mustang GT. Even those motors are having trouble exceed 550rwhp on the stock bottom end. I know this cause we just put a blower on it. Even at 514rwhp it periodically goes into fail safe. There was also a guy that bought a 05 GT and put a blower on it from JBA and it was doing about 565hp and a week later he blew his motor due to a rod bearing cracking in half then caused the piston to bend the valves. This was caused by the inbalance of boost pressure into each cylinder. When this occurs one sides pistons are being pushed down harder while the others arent as much. When this happens on a v8 your crank starts to bend due to the differences of pressure on 2 different places. Ever try making a motor work on a bent crank? Its not a very pretty picture I can assure you. I am sure you can picture the rest.



To your 3rd paragraph. I dont know if you have read my posts but I have repeatedly said A"stock bottom end" I never said stock top end. Of course to get 800hp you will need better airflow. But the bottom end you dont have to touch while as every single v style motor you have to tear apart the bottom end and put better internals and blueprint and balance the motor better.

Inregards to your last paragraph. I agree with you. Every single toyota motor produced has literaly been strong. However, the facts still remain I6 bottom ends are much better to deal with than v6's.

Again let me make myself very clear. In my opinion you can get more power out of a V8 than a I6 but the V8 must be built right for that kind of hp. Now if a v6 was built right I would still say the I6 would be faster if they were the same displacement reason why is becasue a I6 has less metal due to the shape of the motor. A V6 weighs more. Therefore if placed in a vehicle of the same weight the I6 would win due to less weight.
your arguement was that the V6/V8 was less inbalanced so its impossible to make big power out of them .. a V8 is less balanced then a V6..

also you do know there is a 700-800hp 5vz-fe out there.. if you go up google im sure you ll find it.. its 10-11 second tacoma.. it claims it has stock buttom end.. i have a 5vz-fe in the garage rite now.. i can assure you its not some pos V6.. its built up like a tank.. 13-15PSI on street gas can make 400-500hp.. reliabley.. my friend has 300whp tacoma.. no intercooler.. has been running it like that for 40,000KM.. the thing knocks everywhere.. i can hear it.. but it still has zero problems..

i gotta disagree with you on the v6 weighing more then a I6.. if you check

www.mr2oc.com

there is someone on the forum who did the 5vz-fe swap.. and i have one in the garage gonna put it in a mr2 this summer woot.. anyways it weighs only 40lbs more then a stock 3sgte.. a 1mzfe v6 weighs less then a 3sgte.. the 2jz weighs alot..
that is why the le mans supra used the 3sgte.. saved alot of weight..
i think thats one of the biggest downfall of the 2jz.. its heavy
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oh noesssssss... are we having a small debate?? hehe

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i found this picture yesturday online

omg its a badass supra.. how much power is he pushing out of that thing? 400whp?
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:39 AM   #18
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sweet car. where did you find it. whats the site to the page.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:44 AM   #19
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those two images are hosted on my website.. they are all i have on Ewans mk2

there may possibly be another site with them... which in that case post it up
that mk2 lives about 3 hours away from me
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your arguement was that the V6/V8 was less inbalanced so its impossible to make big power out of them .. a V8 is less balanced then a V6..

also you do know there is a 700-800hp 5vz-fe out there.. if you go up google im sure you ll find it.. its 10-11 second tacoma.. it claims it has stock buttom end.. i have a 5vz-fe in the garage rite now.. i can assure you its not some pos V6.. its built up like a tank.. 13-15PSI on street gas can make 400-500hp.. reliabley.. my friend has 300whp tacoma.. no intercooler.. has been running it like that for 40,000KM.. the thing knocks everywhere.. i can hear it.. but it still has zero problems..

i gotta disagree with you on the v6 weighing more then a I6.. if you check

www.mr2oc.com

there is someone on the forum who did the 5vz-fe swap.. and i have one in the garage gonna put it in a mr2 this summer woot.. anyways it weighs only 40lbs more then a stock 3sgte.. a 1mzfe v6 weighs less then a 3sgte.. the 2jz weighs alot..
that is why the le mans supra used the 3sgte.. saved alot of weight..
i think thats one of the biggest downfall of the 2jz.. its heavy
Again look at the dynamics and the kenetics of the 2 different styles of motors. Physics in its own tels you that balancing a v motor is much more difficult than a inline. I said a v8 can make more power because of its displacement but just like a v6 it wil have troubles on the stock internals when exceeding over 500hp. If you dont beleive me go and ask any ford or GM dealership . The reason why the 2jz is so heavy is cause its a cast iron block. But most v6 and v8 are cast iron too. Also do you have a link for this le mans supra?
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