Supra or Bmw?

Greglatta · 12-19-2005, 08:04 PM

Yea I didnt want to sound like a jerk on the forum but yea the euro version makes 300+ in 1996 and they downchip to make it meet the pollution of or something like that, heres a link that i found that helped alot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

SKILMATIC · 12-20-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Greglatta

Yea I didnt want to sound like a jerk on the forum but yea the euro version makes 300+ in 1996 and they downchip to make it meet the pollution of or something like that, heres a link that i found that helped alot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

Ok well are you going to import that BMW here? Cause if you do your looking at aver 70grand to make it legal here in the US. Now a 93 tt supra costs around 20-25grand. Let me put 40grand into it to make the cost even and the supra is faster in every aspect shape and form hands down. You cant equivocate a 70,000dollar car to a 30,000 dollar one. Thats not fair. If you want to be fair you must equivocate cost/hp to hp/liter efficiency. Which the supra wins hands down. But go ahead and buy your 70,000 dollar car. I will meet you at the track. We will see who wins. And then after you hand over your pink slip I will be 70,000dollars richer even though I warned you. Im sorry but in my opinion comparing a bmw to a supra is just stupidity. Look at the cars that are making impressive numbers at the track. However, if you are that stuck on the e46 then its your loss.

Just a side note I raced a e46 on the freeway with my 96 saturn sc2 with about 200whp and just incinerated it all day. BMW's are just bad whack jobs. Now if you really want a nice german performance car go with porsche.

kkiepvvessau · 12-20-2005, 02:35 AM

this is a dump question to ask . i thought this is supra forum

SupraMan1784 · 12-20-2005, 02:41 PM

ehh he was making a comparison with a supra so i guess it was legit.... but skil with teh saturn and the e46...the beemer is a lot heavier than a saturn... but i dont know...just making a bad assumption there i guess...havent driven either car...but yea unless ur gonna import the car here or get a euro flashed chip...theres no real reason to compare the euro m3...since u said it was stock for stock...then u wont have a euro chip....but imma stick to my previous post

Greglatta · 12-20-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Ok well are you going to import that BMW here? Cause if you do your looking at aver 70grand to make it legal here in the US. Now a 93 tt supra costs around 20-25grand. Let me put 40grand into it to make the cost even and the supra is faster in every aspect shape and form hands down. You cant equivocate a 70,000dollar car to a 30,000 dollar one. Thats not fair. If you want to be fair you must equivocate cost/hp to hp/liter efficiency. Which the supra wins hands down. But go ahead and buy your 70,000 dollar car. I will meet you at the track. We will see who wins. And then after you hand over your pink slip I will be 70,000dollars richer even though I warned you. Im sorry but in my opinion comparing a bmw to a supra is just stupidity. Look at the cars that are making impressive numbers at the track. However, if you are that stuck on the e46 then its your loss.

Just a side note I raced a e46 on the freeway with my 96 saturn sc2 with about 200whp and just incinerated it all day. BMW's are just bad whack jobs. Now if you really want a nice german performance car go with porsche.

Buying one over there is cheaper then one here, and where i live you dont need to meet emissions the m3 which is why they are down chipped

Greglatta · 12-20-2005, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Ok well are you going to import that BMW here? Cause if you do your looking at aver 70grand to make it legal here in the US. Now a 93 tt supra costs around 20-25grand. Let me put 40grand into it to make the cost even and the supra is faster in every aspect shape and form hands down. You cant equivocate a 70,000dollar car to a 30,000 dollar one. Thats not fair. If you want to be fair you must equivocate cost/hp to hp/liter efficiency. Which the supra wins hands down. But go ahead and buy your 70,000 dollar car. I will meet you at the track. We will see who wins. And then after you hand over your pink slip I will be 70,000dollars richer even though I warned you. Im sorry but in my opinion comparing a bmw to a supra is just stupidity. Look at the cars that are making impressive numbers at the track. However, if you are that stuck on the e46 then its your loss.

Just a side note I raced a e46 on the freeway with my 96 saturn sc2 with about 200whp and just incinerated it all day. BMW's are just bad whack jobs. Now if you really want a nice german performance car go with porsche.

http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl.../solo0049.html hmm that shows that the sc2 hasa topspeed of 99, NICE

SupraMan1784 · 12-20-2005, 08:17 PM

2FAST2FURIOUS sc2

Greglatta · 12-20-2005, 08:56 PM

Dand That Saturn Makes 120 Hp

SKILMATIC · 12-20-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Greglatta

http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl.../solo0049.html hmm that shows that the sc2 hasa topspeed of 99, NICE

I tell you what. I can assure you it goes far past 99mph. I was hitting a buck 40 on the 5 South here in so cal in camp pendleton area. By that time I couldnt even see the BMW's lights. Also depending on the tranny setup and motor. Now the SOHC with a MP2 tranny auto will go about 105 I beleive but a manual MP2 with a DOHC is the best setup which I have with a quaife diff. A matter of fact if you dont beleive me I can send you a link of my saturn from cardomain.

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2FAST2FURIOUS sc2

Yes my car is a sleeper. haha

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Dand That Saturn Makes 120 Hp

Stock ones make around 124hp with 100tq @ 2300pds. After I got done with my first setup making around 200whp @ 2100pds I can assure you it was one very quick car. When you can beat SS or Z28 camaros on the freeway in a 4banger you are considered to be very fast. haha And e46's cant even touch camaros on the freeway.

SupraMan1784 · 12-21-2005, 02:59 PM

wut did u do to that saturn? also are u running the ecotec motor in that? my friend has teh new ion...its quick, but u can tell it loses power towards the top of the powerband, that was when it was stock, once he opened up the flow via intake and exhaust and some headers he got more of a kick up top

12-20-2005, 02:35 AM	#3
kkiepvvessau Stock Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	this is a dump question to ask . i thought this is supra forum __________________ 95 Supra SE

12-20-2005, 02:41 PM	#4
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	ehh he was making a comparison with a supra so i guess it was legit.... but skil with teh saturn and the e46...the beemer is a lot heavier than a saturn... but i dont know...just making a bad assumption there i guess...havent driven either car...but yea unless ur gonna import the car here or get a euro flashed chip...theres no real reason to compare the euro m3...since u said it was stock for stock...then u wont have a euro chip....but imma stick to my previous post __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

12-20-2005, 08:17 PM	#7
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	2FAST2FURIOUS sc2 __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

12-21-2005, 02:59 PM	#10
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	wut did u do to that saturn? also are u running the ecotec motor in that? my friend has teh new ion...its quick, but u can tell it loses power towards the top of the powerband, that was when it was stock, once he opened up the flow via intake and exhaust and some headers he got more of a kick up top __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

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12-19-2005, 08:04 PM	#1
Greglatta Intake Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	Yea I didnt want to sound like a jerk on the forum but yea the euro version makes 300+ in 1996 and they downchip to make it meet the pollution of or something like that, heres a link that i found that helped alot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3

12-20-2005, 08:56 PM	#8
Greglatta Intake Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	Dand That Saturn Makes 120 Hp