Supra or Bmw?

SKILMATIC · 12-01-2005, 04:22 AM

Ok I am not a genius by any means but let me try and break it down for you.

First off, yes from the factory the BMW does put down better numbers. But look at what your comparing. You are comparing a modern age technologically advanced vehicle to a 10yr old vehicle with inregards to todays technology is primitive. I mean for example take a look at the new 06 IS350 that car stock with a v6 3.5l(i think) puts out more horse stock then my dads 05 Mustang GT (which is a V8) stock. And thats just 1 years of difference in technology. Imagine what 10years will do.

Second of all, why would you want a $55,000 car with the maintenance bill of a Ferrari when you can have a car where mechanics and parts are virtually plentiful and cheap for the most part? Also you are gauranteed the reliability and strength because its a toyota whereas BMW's when they become 10years old they are nothing but headaches.

Thirdly, lets do a fair comparison. Now in 97 the BMW 5series which still runs for almost 21grand has a 4.4l v8 that puts out about 282hp. Now lets move on to the 97 M3 which puts out 240hp with a I6. You can see with a fair equivelance of cars the Supra basically decimates any BWM that came out that year.

Now lets move onto mods. I can gaurantee you and I can put money on this that with less money that I can make any turboed supra waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than any BMW. Let me just paint a picture for you. With a twin turboed supra all I have to do is install a Bosst controller and bigger injectors and I can put out well over 450hp which will only cost me about 400bucks. With a BMW your lucky you can get one injector for that price. LOL Not to mention even with all the bolt-ons in the world you still would be shy of 450hp.

But I guess its your money and you can spend it on whatever dumb sh!t you want. LOL Just never say we didnt warned you. There is a reason why a decent condition 97 Turboed supra is still at least 35grand. Our bottom ends are virtually indestructable while BMW's start taking poops when you exceed 500hp on the stock bottom end.

Good luck with your Bimmer.

Greglatta · 12-01-2005, 06:49 PM

How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

SupraMan1784 · 12-01-2005, 08:28 PM

225hp is the answer

joel w · 12-01-2005, 08:44 PM

sorry my bad, i didnt realize i was in the mk4 section when i posted, but it still applies sorta..

1988gte · 12-02-2005, 06:14 AM

found this, read torque, and weight. don't they play role in numbers?
http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/

RedSupra87 · 12-02-2005, 04:31 PM

Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too.

SupraMan1784 · 12-02-2005, 06:53 PM

well of course...i mean this is the supra forum right? or no...?

1988gte · 12-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSupra87

Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too.

great point i have seen it alot. The take off makes all the differnece

Hennessey · 01-23-2006, 03:33 AM

2 diffrent classes of cars. this cannot be argued.

Supra_Scott · 06-14-2009, 06:47 PM

Comon what BEEEMER do you know with over a thousand HP lets be real here and say you could buy a decent newer supra for under 20k, drop 15k and have 800hp 0 payments....

12-01-2005, 08:28 PM	#3
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	225hp is the answer __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

12-02-2005, 04:31 PM	#6
RedSupra87 3" Exhaust Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 77	Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too. __________________ *RedSupra''87''*

12-02-2005, 06:53 PM	#7
SupraMan1784 SP58GT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dirty Jerz Posts: 691	well of course...i mean this is the supra forum right? or no...? __________________ Now: Saving for an MKIV Broken Rides: (Sold) 91 supra turbo 5speed with a 1jzgte motor 421whp 400(399) ft*lbs of torque on tap @ 15 psi "Always outnumbered, never outgunned."

06-14-2009, 06:47 PM	#10
Supra_Scott Stock Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mesa Posts: 10	lol Comon what BEEEMER do you know with over a thousand HP lets be real here and say you could buy a decent newer supra for under 20k, drop 15k and have 800hp 0 payments....

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12-01-2005, 04:22 AM	#1
SKILMATIC 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 221	Ok I am not a genius by any means but let me try and break it down for you. First off, yes from the factory the BMW does put down better numbers. But look at what your comparing. You are comparing a modern age technologically advanced vehicle to a 10yr old vehicle with inregards to todays technology is primitive. I mean for example take a look at the new 06 IS350 that car stock with a v6 3.5l(i think) puts out more horse stock then my dads 05 Mustang GT (which is a V8) stock. And thats just 1 years of difference in technology. Imagine what 10years will do. Second of all, why would you want a $55,000 car with the maintenance bill of a Ferrari when you can have a car where mechanics and parts are virtually plentiful and cheap for the most part? Also you are gauranteed the reliability and strength because its a toyota whereas BMW's when they become 10years old they are nothing but headaches. Thirdly, lets do a fair comparison. Now in 97 the BMW 5series which still runs for almost 21grand has a 4.4l v8 that puts out about 282hp. Now lets move on to the 97 M3 which puts out 240hp with a I6. You can see with a fair equivelance of cars the Supra basically decimates any BWM that came out that year. Now lets move onto mods. I can gaurantee you and I can put money on this that with less money that I can make any turboed supra waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than any BMW. Let me just paint a picture for you. With a twin turboed supra all I have to do is install a Bosst controller and bigger injectors and I can put out well over 450hp which will only cost me about 400bucks. With a BMW your lucky you can get one injector for that price. LOL Not to mention even with all the bolt-ons in the world you still would be shy of 450hp. But I guess its your money and you can spend it on whatever dumb sh!t you want. LOL Just never say we didnt warned you. There is a reason why a decent condition 97 Turboed supra is still at least 35grand. Our bottom ends are virtually indestructable while BMW's start taking poops when you exceed 500hp on the stock bottom end. Good luck with your Bimmer.

12-01-2005, 06:49 PM	#2
Greglatta Intake Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

12-01-2005, 08:44 PM	#4
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	sorry my bad, i didnt realize i was in the mk4 section when i posted, but it still applies sorta..

12-02-2005, 06:14 AM	#5
1988gte 3" Exhaust Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 140	found this, read torque, and weight. don't they play role in numbers? http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/

01-23-2006, 03:33 AM	#9
Hennessey Stock Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12	2 diffrent classes of cars. this cannot be argued.