one of those questions: between 2JZ-GTE and RB26DETT

Isphius · 12-21-2006, 07:25 AM

lol. Its good the supra can make/take power that easily, Because it doesnt take 800hp to run 10 seconds, Only in a supra. I love these cars to death, But they are not drag racers. Any other lighter car or any car with a rear axle (ie, american) could run a 10 sec quarter mile with high 500s. Even the front wheel drivers (i hate these guys) are getting into the 8s and 9s with as little as 550 or 600. I dont mean to make fun of the supra though, I wish i had one

Isphius · 12-21-2006, 07:26 AM

And yes, the 2J is definatley a better motor. Nissan sucks balls. lol. My opinion is in no way biased.

Monkey · 12-28-2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Isphius

And yes, the 2J is definatley a better motor. Nissan sucks balls. lol. My opinion is in no way biased.

I'll pretend i didn't read this. Obviously your opinion is biased. Nissan does not suck. The 2J is not a better motor than the RB. It's just that there's more parts support for the 2J, because it's already here. The RB is a Japan only. If you want one, you have to get it shipped here, that includes any and all parts, from Japan.

By the way, did you own a few Nissan beaters in the past that blew up on you? Is that why you think they suck?

Any car sucks if you don't take care of it.

Isphius · 01-25-2007, 08:15 PM

Nope, Never owned a nissan. I just dont like them. So sorry to offend. And the biased opinion thing was sarcasm, hehe. We are on a toyota forum after all...

pwpanas · 12-21-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Isphius

...Because it doesnt take 800hp to run 10 seconds, Only in a supra...

? Fwiw, I've seen several ~600rwhp Mkivs in the 10s. Not sure what you mean...

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Originally Posted by Isphius

...I love these cars to death, But they are not drag racers. Any other lighter car or any car with a rear axle (ie, american) could run a 10 sec quarter mile with high 500s. Even the front wheel drivers (i hate these guys) are getting into the 8s and 9s with as little as 550 or 600. I dont mean to make fun of the supra though, I wish i had one

I agree that the Mkiv isn't the cheapest nor an optimal platform for drag racing, but how many other platform can run 9s, and then kick butt roadracing with nothing more than a tire swap & a few clicks on the coilover settings? "Any other lighter car"? Like a Miata? ...or maybe a Geo Metro? Rofl.

j/k

Isphius · 12-22-2006, 03:00 AM

Lol, I know what you mean, But so many people just think of the cars as drag cars, Which i totally think they are not. Im just tired of seeing mk4s and even 3s putting down 500 600 700 hp and then they just go out and try to drag race everything and everyone makes fun of them because they cant hook up and run 12 sec quarter miles with 130 mph trap speed, And then get our cars labled as dyno and trailer queens by everyone else. Ok im exhaggerating. But its the owners I dont like, never the cars. To me, Every car deserves a little respect, But not all owners. And I meant lighter cars like pretty much anything lol. Camaros, stangs, rx7s, 300zxs are even a little lighter. The weight makes them awesome daily driveable race cars, super stiff, comfortable, quiet, and just nice to drive. But doesnt help numbers much. lol.

pwpanas · 12-23-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Isphius

Lol, I know what you mean, But so many people just think of the cars as drag cars, Which i totally think they are not. Im just tired of seeing mk4s and even 3s putting down 500 600 700 hp and then they just go out and try to drag race everything and everyone makes fun of them because they cant hook up and run 12 sec quarter miles with 130 mph trap speed, And then get our cars labled as dyno and trailer queens by everyone else.

True, but a LOT has been done in recent years to turn this around. For example, the Mkiv community has learned the hard way that you need drag-specialized rims& tires to hook up that 700+rwhp from a dead stop. Regardless of how well they handle in other circumstances, low-profile street/roadrace tires just don't get the job done on the dragstrip. Besides, let them think it's a rice-burnin' dyno queen that can't hook up...that makes it all the more sweet when we pocket their cash. lol

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Originally Posted by Isphius

...To me, Every car deserves a little respect, But not all owners...

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Isphius

...And I meant lighter cars like pretty much anything lol. Camaros, stangs, rx7s, 300zxs are even a little lighter. The weight makes them awesome daily driveable race cars, super stiff, comfortable, quiet, and just nice to drive. But doesnt help numbers much. lol.

Hmmm
1993 300zx curb weight = 3533 lbs
1993 Supra TT curb weight = 3475 lbs

Also, 300zx isn't any more of a dragrace-optimal vehicle than the Mkiv Supra, imho.

Isphius · 12-25-2006, 03:34 AM

I meant the older 300zxs, But i see what you mean. I just wish i had a totally stock TT mk4

Id drive it everywhere. lol.

12-21-2006, 07:25 AM	#1
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	lol. Its good the supra can make/take power that easily, Because it doesnt take 800hp to run 10 seconds, Only in a supra. I love these cars to death, But they are not drag racers. Any other lighter car or any car with a rear axle (ie, american) could run a 10 sec quarter mile with high 500s. Even the front wheel drivers (i hate these guys) are getting into the 8s and 9s with as little as 550 or 600. I dont mean to make fun of the supra though, I wish i had one __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

12-21-2006, 07:26 AM	#2
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	And yes, the 2J is definatley a better motor. Nissan sucks balls. lol. My opinion is in no way biased. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

01-25-2007, 08:15 PM	#4
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	Nope, Never owned a nissan. I just dont like them. So sorry to offend. And the biased opinion thing was sarcasm, hehe. We are on a toyota forum after all... __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

12-22-2006, 03:00 AM	#6
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	Lol, I know what you mean, But so many people just think of the cars as drag cars, Which i totally think they are not. Im just tired of seeing mk4s and even 3s putting down 500 600 700 hp and then they just go out and try to drag race everything and everyone makes fun of them because they cant hook up and run 12 sec quarter miles with 130 mph trap speed, And then get our cars labled as dyno and trailer queens by everyone else. Ok im exhaggerating. But its the owners I dont like, never the cars. To me, Every car deserves a little respect, But not all owners. And I meant lighter cars like pretty much anything lol. Camaros, stangs, rx7s, 300zxs are even a little lighter. The weight makes them awesome daily driveable race cars, super stiff, comfortable, quiet, and just nice to drive. But doesnt help numbers much. lol. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

12-25-2006, 03:34 AM	#8
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	I meant the older 300zxs, But i see what you mean. I just wish i had a totally stock TT mk4 Id drive it everywhere. lol. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

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