Supra Project car.

[WiseAssJester]

Supras are very expensive. Particularly, from what I've seen, the newest generation.


The 2jz motor is also quite the powerhouse, but from what I can tell on the streets and on dyno's, they make what my friends and I call "honda torque," or "butt torque." Meaning less then prefferable.


I've never driven a newer Supra, but if they're half the car the MK3 is, then they're damn nice cars. Comfortable, responsive, well designed. Overall, twerties.


** Torque is in reference to low end torque. IE: Low RPM.

[Troyota]

An inline engine will generally make more torque than a V type engine. When you talk about high power Supra's the problem isn't lack of torque in fact quite the opposite. The problem tends to be how to get the power and torque to the ground w/o frying your tires off.

[TRAFIK]

Your post really confused me.

honda torque?
butt torque?

Especialy the "Half the car of a mk3" referance.

are you new?
what do you drive?

[Posey]

From what I hear the 2jz is an awesome motor, I've seen dyno videos over 1000+ rwhp with a twin turbo setup MKIV. Also from what I've seen 93'-94' N/A MKIV supra can run you quite a bit upwards of $17,000 not to mention if you want a low mileage turbo, or maybe even a twin turbo nice nice MKIV then you are looking at $40,000+. Haha they are nice cars but personally I find the MKIII style more aggressive and a little easier on the wallet. And hell if I can get my 7mgte to over 500 rwhp who the hell needs a MKIV

And by easier on the wallet I do mean quite a bit easier. I bought my 86.5 N/A from a guy for $650 with no body damage but a blown engine (perfect). Later I paid $978.75 for my low mileage 7mgte JDM motor.

Good luck

[Isphius]

he said he wanted either a beat up/crashed or high mileage supra, for a project car. And i do agree...if they spent the same time designing the mk4 as they did on the 3, id bet it is a really nice car. i wish i could have had one back in 86 or 87, when they first came out. would have been sweet!

[Soulofdarkness]

Originally Posted by WiseAssJester

The 2jz motor is also quite the powerhouse, but from what I can tell on the streets and on dyno's, they make what my friends and I call "honda torque," or "butt torque." Meaning less then prefferable.

** Torque is in reference to low end torque. IE: Low RPM.

Wow... I'm sorry this post confused even me... I don't see how the Inline 6 of the supra can make Honda torque... They are 3 liters correct? From what I know most Hondas are only around 2 (Displacement is usually what makes Torque if I remember correctly)... If they are on an N/A with low compression heads, I can see low torque figures... But on the Twin-turbo models, how do you figure?.. I've been in a STi and its only 2.5 Liters with a VF-39 and has just gobs of Torque... Maybe they have huge turbos and its all the turbo lag? I dunno...

Thanks for the replies. But anyone have some other good info for me? I'm really egar to find out what I will get myself into. So everyone please chime in.

Thanks,
Adam

[Soulofdarkness]

Bump.

Any one else wanna chime in?

[Supra2NR]

mkIII is easy on the insurance the same coverage on the mkIIII that you will pay for at least close to 300 dollars you will pay less than half of that if u get an mkIII and like the other guy said you dont need a MKIIII with a 2jz if your only gonna use it for recreation, a simple n/a mkIII will do the job for you low insurance, and yet has big tuning potencial



and jus to answer that guy comment about having problem putting high horsepower to the ground

get yourself a stage 5 clutch a lightweight yet sturdy flywheel and a diffrential
tuning it might be a bitch but get it right you will be smoking a s#!t load of riced out cars on the street or on the strip

[TRAFIK]

To continue this post, MKIV's are expensive ,rare, and expensive to insure.
Also very realible even when putting down LARGE hp numbers that the stock 2jz-gte takes like a walk in the park. Overall the car is NOT a cheap toy.
Depending on what you need or want you should ask yourself and get your priorities in order and make a decision. We have a saying around here
"if you have to ask, dont get it"

MKIII on the other hand are a little less cheaper to insure, easier to find and buy parts for. To me a awesome car with great potntial and super fun no matter how you look at it. I owned a 86.5 white N/A auto as my first car targa and everything ( mint ) then down the road I got myself a 93 red MKIV that I wouldent trade for the world and I still miss my MKIII ,when I come back from europe this Fall I got 5 K saved up and I am getting myself a nice clean MKIII and I will be in supra heaven. Both cars are sweet and to me top shelf sports rides with many adventages that get a lot of attention and respect more then other cars. Depending on your budget mostly the choice is up to you.