Rims

[redsupra]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Your questions can't be answered until we understand BOTH your ultimate horsepower goals, AND your application (roadrace, drag race, autocross, drifting, street racing, daily driving, show-car only, etc., etc.)

I don't need any more HP than what it has now (got a renovation sucking money out of my pocket already!!). So it has what it came with originally.

Pretty much daily driving.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by redsupra

...Pretty much daily driving.

I hope you don't mind what you might think is a dumb question, but here goes: Why not stick with the oem 17" rims? Those rims and tire widths do just fine for daily driving.

[Codyjamesuno]

Originally Posted by redsupra

I don't need any more HP than what it has now (got a renovation sucking money out of my pocket already!!). So it has what it came with originally.

Pretty much daily driving.

I would sink a lot of cash into a tire if it's just a daily driver. These guys are right, kind of wasting your money if you buy $$$ wheels & tires, especially performance wheels & tires if your not going to drive it like a race car. I had some cheaper ones on my 1987 supra, think they we Nakang or something, they were great tires and fairly cheap to.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by Codyjamesuno

I would sink a lot of cash into a tire if it's just a daily driver. These guys are right, kind of wasting your money if you buy $$$ wheels & tires, especially performance wheels & tires if your not going to drive it like a race car. I had some cheaper ones on my 1987 supra, think they we Nakang or something, they were great tires and fairly cheap to.

Just to be clear, tires are absolutely critical for all situations - they're the only thing connecting you to the road. Just because the Mkiv TT might not get driven to its max at track events, does not also mean that the owner doesn't want that exact same performance level available to him/her in an emergency. My point was mainly about the rims - to me, there's nothing wrong (functionally speaking) with 17" rims, and 9.5" wide is enough to handle most situations for near-oem horsepower levels. The tires however, are a different matter. Stick to oem-spec z-rated tires, and at least oem widths. Please let me know if you'd like specific brand recommendations.

[Codyjamesuno]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

Just to be clear, tires are absolutely critical for all situations - they're the only thing connecting you to the road. Just because the Mkiv TT might not get driven to its max at track events, does not also mean that the owner doesn't want that exact same performance level available to him/her in an emergency. My point was mainly about the rims - to me, there's nothing wrong (functionally speaking) with 17" rims, and 9.5" wide is enough to handle most situations for near-oem horsepower levels. The tires however, are a different matter. Stick to oem-spec z-rated tires, and at least oem widths. Please let me know if you'd like specific brand recommendations.

i have had cheaper tires on my supra for years and they performed very well and didn't cost me an arm an a leg, I don't agree with you on this one, tires are important but if you using it as a daily drive you don't need a high end set of track tires for the street that would just be throwing you money away. I run a $100 front and $100 rear tire on my turbo hayabusa made by shinko, a cheap brand and it's the best tire i've i've ever used on that bike and thats a 260hp machine. That bike will do over 200 mph and thats on a cheap tire, sometimes the cheap can be a diamond in the rough, just my opinnion though.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by Codyjamesuno

i have had cheaper tires on my supra for years and they performed very well and didn't cost me an arm an a leg, I don't agree with you on this one, tires are important but if you using it as a daily drive you don't need a high end set of track tires for the street that would just be throwing you money away. I run a $100 front and $100 rear tire on my turbo hayabusa made by shinko, a cheap brand and it's the best tire i've i've ever used on that bike and thats a 260hp machine. That bike will do over 200 mph and thats on a cheap tire, sometimes the cheap can be a diamond in the rough, just my opinnion though.

Why cripple the performance of a $50,000+ GT sportscar (yes, that's what the Mkiv Supra Turbo is) by putting crappy tires on it? If you want a car that performs like a Corolla, don't buy a Supra Turbo and disconnect it from the road. The oem specs call for z-rated tires, just like it calls for 10W-30 oil. If you can't afford to buy proper tires for the car, don't buy it.

That said, please don't confuse crappy tires with cheap tires. Sometimes cheap tires can be very high performing - but (for example) the compound is so soft they wear out quickly (meaning you'll have to change them more often, which ultimately results in more $ spent on the tires over time). ...or perhaps you get a great deal on some slightly used Pirelli's from a buddy. Either way is fine, as long as the tires are oem spec or better.

If you still disagree, then let's agree to disagree. I have safety and performance in mind, and I don't want to risk the lives of our forum members by condoning the use of substandard tires. If you want to stick to this argument, then let's continue it privately.

[TurboSupera]

I'd have to agree. I never get it when people put "crappy" tires on any vehicle. It's doesn't have to be a Supra nor a sports car. I always tell people, I don't care if you drive like a grandma, to put good tires on their vehicles; I don't care what kind of vehicle. You have to think about this.....it's your life and possibly other lives around you. Is it worth it to save a couple of hundred of dollars? The contact point, rubber to road, per tire, is probably about and inch or so.......so, don't go with crappy tires. Notice I agree and didn't say cheap. You can find deals all over the place, just don't go with crap. I tell people, when you need to stop in an emergency do you really want a crappy tire that is going to stop the car in say 80 ft. rather than 50 ft. And on the flip side, if you need to accelerate to get out of a potential accident.....do you really want those crappy tires to just sit there and spin? Just my $.02.