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Old 01-11-2011, 09:16 PM   #1
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it was code 13
Did you fix it yourself? Also, did you (or the mechanic) determine why the cam sensors were failing when it was cold?
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Did you fix it yourself? Also, did you (or the mechanic) determine why the cam sensors were failing when it was cold?
I tool it to mechanic, cause I couldn't find any diagnosis tool around.

they didn't tell me when you found the code, but I guess the code which they found should be stored in ECU. casue They did they in the morning, and it's not cold.

but I srtill don't understand, what relation between cam sensor and cold weather....
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I tool it to mechanic, cause I couldn't find any diagnosis tool around....
"Diagnosis tool"??? What on earth are you talking about? Where did you get the idea that you had to obtain a "diagnosis tool"?

All you need is a paper clip to "Connect terminal between TE1 and E1 of data link connector 1 or 2". Didn't you read the link I posted???
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/eng...bd1_codes.html
That tech article does NOT mention a "diagnosis tool", in any way, shape or form.


If you don't mind me saying so, if you'd have fixed this yourself instead of taking it to a mechanic, you would have learned "relation between cam sensor and cold weather".
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"Diagnosis tool"??? What on earth are you talking about?

All you need is a paper clip to "Connect terminal between TE1 and E1 of data link connector 1 or 2". Didn't you read the link I posted???
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/eng...bd1_codes.html
That tech article does NOT mention a "diagnosis tool", in any way, shape or form.


If you don't mind me saying so, if you'd have fixed this yourself instead of taking it to a mechanic, you would have learned "relation between cam sensor and cold weather".
yes I read that, but I just don't understand where can I found the codes after I connect those connector, cause I throught I will need a computer thing to plug in the connector, then code will be shown on the screen.
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yes I read that, but I just don't understand where can I found the codes after I connect those connector, cause I throught I will need a computer thing to plug in the connector, then code will be shown on the screen.
With a paper clip in the connector, how could you plug anything else into it?

If you read the tech article, and maybe didn't understand part of it, why didn't you ask?

Your "check engine light" is really called a "malfunction indicator lamp" by Toyota. This from the very first paragraphs of the tech article:
"The ECM contains a built-in self-diagnosis system by which troubles with the engine signal network are detected and a malfunction indicator lamp on the instrument panel lights up...
The diagnostic trouble code can be read by the number of blinks of the malfunction indicator lamp when TE1 and E1 terminals on the data link connector 1 or 2 are connected."
Again, this tech article does NOT mention a "diagnosis tool", in any way, shape or form.
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With a paper clip in the connector, how could you plug anything else into it?

If you read the tech article, and maybe didn't understand part of it, why didn't you ask?

Your "check engine light" is really called a "malfunction indicator lamp" by Toyota. This from the very first paragraphs of the tech article:
"The ECM contains a built-in self-diagnosis system by which troubles with the engine signal network are detected and a malfunction indicator lamp on the instrument panel lights up...
The diagnostic trouble code can be read by the number of blinks of the malfunction indicator lamp when TE1 and E1 terminals on the data link connector 1 or 2 are connected."
right, so that mean I just need to count how many time it flash then I can find the problem throug that table?

and what if the car has some another problems, after I read one do I need to re-connect again for next code?

thank you, learn a big thing today
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right, so that mean I just need to count how many time it flash then I can find the problem throug that table?...
Yes. Again, please read, and re-read, and re-read that tech article until you fully understand it.

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...and what if the car has some another problems, after I read one do I need to re-connect again for next code?...
No. Please read the tech article. The codes follow one another in a pattern of flashes. The tech article COMPLETELY explains ALL of this!!!

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...thank you, learn a big thing today
You're welcome. I only wish you would have asked more questions before you assumed that you needed some sort of fancy "diagnosis tool", and sent your car away to someone that may or may not have fixed the problem, and may or may not have charged you for parts that you did not need.
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