new here. intrestin idea

supramacist · 06-27-2007, 05:26 AM

Dudes. This is what hotrods are made of. Forget the turbo.

If you want to really go for it, supercharge it. Stroker cams. Forged everything. Build it for nos. Make it a bio diesel machine. Do it but take it a step further.

j3pz · 06-27-2007, 10:19 PM

ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite

SupraDupra · 06-28-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by j3pz

ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite

To be fair though ,the grammar/spelling/punctuation/sentence structure ,on many posts here is pretty hard to read through. I usualy have to guess what the poster means ,I didn't think he actualy meant DE-stroked... seems counter productive. I've been wrong before though :P

fullmetal · 06-28-2007, 11:41 PM

ok so yes I did mean to say DE-stroke. and so let me 6ive you a run down of the idea behind DE-strokin an en6ine. ima6ine a ferrari en6ine verse a chevy V8 first ferrari: very short stroke wide bore hi6h RPM. now V8 lon6 stroke thinner bore low RPM. wider bore= more downward force= faster down=more ability for hi6h RPM. same time short stroke=less distance to travel=shorter time spent movin=more ability for hi6h RPM. so the idea here is DE-stroke & bore to make a hi6h RPM based en6ine. I wnated to make a 9.5-10K RPM en6ine that could produce 300+ power. the idea is basicaly a very 6ood auto-x car. just to 6et the conversation back on track. and as far as the mods I have no problem with doin a lar6e amount of work on this as it is a project car, nor am I any stran6er to lar6e build ups, I am just commin from the honda world and wanted to 6ather some info about these motors before jumpin into somehtin6.

a6ain sorry for the lack of... that letter I still have no key for it

j3pz · 06-29-2007, 12:16 AM

lol ill translate that. our 7ms have a long stroke, makeing the rev limit low. a engine like that of, say a honda, has a short stroke, allowing a higher rpm range.

what he wants to do is make the stroke on the 7m shorter to allow a higher rmp range. this will comprimise torque, but i dont think it will hurt it that much as the 7m is a torq monster because of the long stroke.

catching what im relaying?

SupraDupra · 06-29-2007, 01:54 AM

Now I follow you. Basicaly make the 7m have the output of a rotary. Very interesting ,I rather like that idea. Trade torque for horsepower and shift it way high. I think the 7M would be the perfect platform for that.

j3pz · 06-29-2007, 02:57 AM

well i dont know what a shorter stroke will do to hp or the powerband. before i take on the task myself, i want to learn more about the 7m and get mine to a level im comfortable with.

cheshire1369 · 07-25-2009, 09:26 AM

wow! sounds like a great project. no real info here just an fyi, ent tot he drags tonight, saw a tracker running, and doing great. so my curiosity piqued (yes a tracker...geo) i went to take a look, turns out he hac a dohc 350 nissan engine in it! Knew there had to be a catch! they are very strong engines, but very tight with little to NO margine for error. Just be careful, it would be a shame to overdo it just to end up with less than you had to begin with. just a thought.

06-27-2007, 10:19 PM	#2
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

06-29-2007, 12:16 AM	#5
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	lol ill translate that. our 7ms have a long stroke, makeing the rev limit low. a engine like that of, say a honda, has a short stroke, allowing a higher rpm range. what he wants to do is make the stroke on the 7m shorter to allow a higher rmp range. this will comprimise torque, but i dont think it will hurt it that much as the 7m is a torq monster because of the long stroke. catching what im relaying? __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

06-29-2007, 01:54 AM	#6
SupraDupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 129	Now I follow you. Basicaly make the 7m have the output of a rotary. Very interesting ,I rather like that idea. Trade torque for horsepower and shift it way high. I think the 7M would be the perfect platform for that. __________________ 1988 Supra - N/A 5 speed 1974 'Cuda - 318 2001 Cherokee

06-29-2007, 02:57 AM	#7
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	well i dont know what a shorter stroke will do to hp or the powerband. before i take on the task myself, i want to learn more about the 7m and get mine to a level im comfortable with. __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

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06-27-2007, 05:26 AM	#1
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	Dudes. This is what hotrods are made of. Forget the turbo. If you want to really go for it, supercharge it. Stroker cams. Forged everything. Build it for nos. Make it a bio diesel machine. Do it but take it a step further.

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fullmetal Stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: west chester PA Posts: 4	ok so yes I did mean to say DE-stroke. and so let me 6ive you a run down of the idea behind DE-strokin an en6ine. ima6ine a ferrari en6ine verse a chevy V8 first ferrari: very short stroke wide bore hi6h RPM. now V8 lon6 stroke thinner bore low RPM. wider bore= more downward force= faster down=more ability for hi6h RPM. same time short stroke=less distance to travel=shorter time spent movin=more ability for hi6h RPM. so the idea here is DE-stroke & bore to make a hi6h RPM based en6ine. I wnated to make a 9.5-10K RPM en6ine that could produce 300+ power. the idea is basicaly a very 6ood auto-x car. just to 6et the conversation back on track. and as far as the mods I have no problem with doin a lar6e amount of work on this as it is a project car, nor am I any stran6er to lar6e build ups, I am just commin from the honda world and wanted to 6ather some info about these motors before jumpin into somehtin6. a6ain sorry for the lack of... that letter I still have no key for it

07-25-2009, 09:26 AM	#8
cheshire1369 Stock Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: hampton, ga Posts: 3	wow! sounds like a great project. no real info here just an fyi, ent tot he drags tonight, saw a tracker running, and doing great. so my curiosity piqued (yes a tracker...geo) i went to take a look, turns out he hac a dohc 350 nissan engine in it! Knew there had to be a catch! they are very strong engines, but very tight with little to NO margine for error. Just be careful, it would be a shame to overdo it just to end up with less than you had to begin with. just a thought.