new here. intrestin idea

j3pz · 06-26-2007, 01:04 AM

bigaaron over on supramania is destroking his 7m using a 5m crank. ive been watching his build thread everytime it gets updated. personally i think its an awesome idea but i dunno about keeping it N/A. while a 300hp n/a would be fast and have the power at anytime, these cars are pretty heavy and 300hp wouldnt be all that quick. dont let me deter you from the idea though, go for it and post up the results. the more people that do it, the more resources ill have when i go to do it

fullmetal · 06-26-2007, 01:50 PM

ok I figured that it would be a fairly involved build up which is fine mainly because it is so unique that it would be worth it just to see it done. I also wanted to know if I just put the turbo head on will that flow better then the stock NA head I assume?

j3pz · 06-27-2007, 01:51 AM

no the heads themselves are the same. however the intake cams are different, the NA cams have more duration

SupraDupra · 06-27-2007, 02:28 AM

I was kicking around the idea of stroking my block as well but someone brought up the point that ,the longer the stroke the faster the pistons are moving to complete equal ammounts of revolutions in a given time. More stress and heat on the engine. Also more heat on the block if you bore it out ,and I have no idea the margine you have between the water jackets. Not to say your idea is a bad one ,but from my personal viewpoint ,the more power you squeeze from an engine ,the shorter it's lifespan. I would recomend you deck the block to increase compression and port/polish the head. Toss on a decent 2 1/2" free flowing exhaust and minor tweaks to fuel and air delivery. If that doesn't satisfy ,turbo is probably what you need. Just my 2 cents

supramacist · 06-27-2007, 05:26 AM

Dudes. This is what hotrods are made of. Forget the turbo.

If you want to really go for it, supercharge it. Stroker cams. Forged everything. Build it for nos. Make it a bio diesel machine. Do it but take it a step further.

j3pz · 06-27-2007, 10:19 PM

ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite

SupraDupra · 06-28-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by j3pz

ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite

To be fair though ,the grammar/spelling/punctuation/sentence structure ,on many posts here is pretty hard to read through. I usualy have to guess what the poster means ,I didn't think he actualy meant DE-stroked... seems counter productive. I've been wrong before though :P

06-26-2007, 01:04 AM	#1
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	bigaaron over on supramania is destroking his 7m using a 5m crank. ive been watching his build thread everytime it gets updated. personally i think its an awesome idea but i dunno about keeping it N/A. while a 300hp n/a would be fast and have the power at anytime, these cars are pretty heavy and 300hp wouldnt be all that quick. dont let me deter you from the idea though, go for it and post up the results. the more people that do it, the more resources ill have when i go to do it __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

06-27-2007, 01:51 AM	#3
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	no the heads themselves are the same. however the intake cams are different, the NA cams have more duration __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

06-27-2007, 02:28 AM	#4
SupraDupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 129	I was kicking around the idea of stroking my block as well but someone brought up the point that ,the longer the stroke the faster the pistons are moving to complete equal ammounts of revolutions in a given time. More stress and heat on the engine. Also more heat on the block if you bore it out ,and I have no idea the margine you have between the water jackets. Not to say your idea is a bad one ,but from my personal viewpoint ,the more power you squeeze from an engine ,the shorter it's lifespan. I would recomend you deck the block to increase compression and port/polish the head. Toss on a decent 2 1/2" free flowing exhaust and minor tweaks to fuel and air delivery. If that doesn't satisfy ,turbo is probably what you need. Just my 2 cents __________________ 1988 Supra - N/A 5 speed 1974 'Cuda - 318 2001 Cherokee

06-27-2007, 10:19 PM	#6
j3pz 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659 Posts: 1,060	ok you guys missed the KEY phrase in his post... DE-stroked... big difference then stroking an engine... in fact, its the complete opposite __________________ 88 N/A w/ 5spd - stock - not running, bhg 87 turbo/targa w/ 5spd- fidanza light weight flywheel, new oem slave cylinder, apexi air filter, no ac and no heat

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06-26-2007, 01:50 PM	#2
fullmetal Stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: west chester PA Posts: 4	ok I figured that it would be a fairly involved build up which is fine mainly because it is so unique that it would be worth it just to see it done. I also wanted to know if I just put the turbo head on will that flow better then the stock NA head I assume?

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supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	Dudes. This is what hotrods are made of. Forget the turbo. If you want to really go for it, supercharge it. Stroker cams. Forged everything. Build it for nos. Make it a bio diesel machine. Do it but take it a step further.