WOW abrupt engine issues on new jasper.

Kuban · 06-13-2007, 02:49 AM

Well i dont know man, on the previous tune it was set at 12psi and on the dyno the afr was holding low 12's. I could see if i did have a lean situation in only cylender 5, such as a stuck injector, it could have detonated and bent the valves causing them not to seat correctly. Alot of things could have happened, but one things for sure, since it is only in cylender 5 my guess would be there is something wrong with the injector or wires on that injector causing this. Only other possibility is manufacture defect.

Keep in mind the comp test i did was dry. 175 across all the cylenders dry except one is pretty damn good. If it were some outside influence causing this i think more than only one cylender would show exessive wear.

supramacist · 06-13-2007, 04:03 PM

Not to be rude or anything but you should stop talking about it here and start talking to jasper engines. No malice intended. Don't waiste another day of the warranty.

IHateHacks · 06-14-2007, 08:30 PM

My 7M with 120K miles and a blown head gasket had 180psi on every cylinder. You say only one was low but thats 1 too many if you catch my drift.

I'm thinking more manufacturer defect than a bad injector.

Let us know what happens.

Kuban · 06-15-2007, 05:03 PM

Well thing is, i called jasper. The warrenty guy that talked to me said its not a defect. Hes saying its my fault. I dont see how but ok. Not many things cause a cylender to lose compression like that just short of rings breaking in two. I dont know what to do now. They wont warrenty it.

Kuban · 06-15-2007, 06:24 PM

Well i think im just going to do a rebuild and do it right myself. I priced myself around 3k for starters.

1100 rods, Brian Crower (1500hp rated)
715 pistons, Ross Pistons
125 head studs, ARP
180 head gasket, COMETIC
265 engine gaskets, Toyota
65 main bearings, Clevite
30 rod bearings, Clevite
73 rod bolts, ARP

total w/o machine work : $2,553

Pricey but could be a promising set up after future fuel and turbo upgrades later.

supramacist · 06-15-2007, 06:26 PM

It's no worse than re-building a stock engine. But I would stay on them.

Obviously something they did is wrong. I'm sorry to hear that, I for 1 will no longer direct anyone in their direction as for engine alternatives.

Kuban · 06-15-2007, 07:32 PM

There telling me im getting detonation and its probably blowing the inner head gasket. Thats why i have compression loss. Although i dont have any coolant issues.

Kuban · 06-16-2007, 06:54 PM

well i guess im hoping it could be the headgasket in that cylender. That would explain it, although i havent been having coolant issues and my oil looks normal. Yesterday the temp rose up to the top and dropped right away. I dont know what that means.

supramacist · 06-17-2007, 12:35 AM

My temp used to do that right before the hg blew the fiznuck out, and I mean lost its' wad. Broke the rear off of 6 on a graphite hg bloched job by previous owner.

IHateHacks · 06-17-2007, 12:44 PM

See, I'm not the only one who thinks you didn't have enough fuel.

Run a block test to see if your HG is blown.

I would add ARP main studs to that list if I were you.

06-13-2007, 02:49 AM	#1
Kuban 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 174	Well i dont know man, on the previous tune it was set at 12psi and on the dyno the afr was holding low 12's. I could see if i did have a lean situation in only cylender 5, such as a stuck injector, it could have detonated and bent the valves causing them not to seat correctly. Alot of things could have happened, but one things for sure, since it is only in cylender 5 my guess would be there is something wrong with the injector or wires on that injector causing this. Only other possibility is manufacture defect. Keep in mind the comp test i did was dry. 175 across all the cylenders dry except one is pretty damn good. If it were some outside influence causing this i think more than only one cylender would show exessive wear. __________________ -868 Miles on new jasper engine -All hard pipes -0.57 trim ct-26 -greddy type S -greddy profec b -apexi ride high 7 way adjustables -eibach springs -slotted rotors -mkIV TT rims (front)245/45/17 (rear)285/40/17 -targa -greddy turbo timer -egr eliminated -3" turbo back, no cat, no resonator, Apexi N1 back. -n/a cams Theres others ill think of later.

06-15-2007, 05:03 PM	#4
Kuban 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 174	Well thing is, i called jasper. The warrenty guy that talked to me said its not a defect. Hes saying its my fault. I dont see how but ok. Not many things cause a cylender to lose compression like that just short of rings breaking in two. I dont know what to do now. They wont warrenty it. __________________ -868 Miles on new jasper engine -All hard pipes -0.57 trim ct-26 -greddy type S -greddy profec b -apexi ride high 7 way adjustables -eibach springs -slotted rotors -mkIV TT rims (front)245/45/17 (rear)285/40/17 -targa -greddy turbo timer -egr eliminated -3" turbo back, no cat, no resonator, Apexi N1 back. -n/a cams Theres others ill think of later.

06-15-2007, 06:24 PM	#5
Kuban 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 174	Well i think im just going to do a rebuild and do it right myself. I priced myself around 3k for starters. 1100 rods, Brian Crower (1500hp rated) 715 pistons, Ross Pistons 125 head studs, ARP 180 head gasket, COMETIC 265 engine gaskets, Toyota 65 main bearings, Clevite 30 rod bearings, Clevite 73 rod bolts, ARP total w/o machine work : $2,553 Pricey but could be a promising set up after future fuel and turbo upgrades later. __________________ -868 Miles on new jasper engine -All hard pipes -0.57 trim ct-26 -greddy type S -greddy profec b -apexi ride high 7 way adjustables -eibach springs -slotted rotors -mkIV TT rims (front)245/45/17 (rear)285/40/17 -targa -greddy turbo timer -egr eliminated -3" turbo back, no cat, no resonator, Apexi N1 back. -n/a cams Theres others ill think of later.

06-15-2007, 07:32 PM	#7
Kuban 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 174	There telling me im getting detonation and its probably blowing the inner head gasket. Thats why i have compression loss. Although i dont have any coolant issues. __________________ -868 Miles on new jasper engine -All hard pipes -0.57 trim ct-26 -greddy type S -greddy profec b -apexi ride high 7 way adjustables -eibach springs -slotted rotors -mkIV TT rims (front)245/45/17 (rear)285/40/17 -targa -greddy turbo timer -egr eliminated -3" turbo back, no cat, no resonator, Apexi N1 back. -n/a cams Theres others ill think of later.

06-16-2007, 06:54 PM	#8
Kuban 3" Exhaust Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 174	well i guess im hoping it could be the headgasket in that cylender. That would explain it, although i havent been having coolant issues and my oil looks normal. Yesterday the temp rose up to the top and dropped right away. I dont know what that means. __________________ -868 Miles on new jasper engine -All hard pipes -0.57 trim ct-26 -greddy type S -greddy profec b -apexi ride high 7 way adjustables -eibach springs -slotted rotors -mkIV TT rims (front)245/45/17 (rear)285/40/17 -targa -greddy turbo timer -egr eliminated -3" turbo back, no cat, no resonator, Apexi N1 back. -n/a cams Theres others ill think of later.

06-13-2007, 04:03 PM	#2
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	Not to be rude or anything but you should stop talking about it here and start talking to jasper engines. No malice intended. Don't waiste another day of the warranty.

06-14-2007, 08:30 PM	#3
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	My 7M with 120K miles and a blown head gasket had 180psi on every cylinder. You say only one was low but thats 1 too many if you catch my drift. I'm thinking more manufacturer defect than a bad injector. Let us know what happens.

06-15-2007, 06:26 PM	#6
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	It's no worse than re-building a stock engine. But I would stay on them. Obviously something they did is wrong. I'm sorry to hear that, I for 1 will no longer direct anyone in their direction as for engine alternatives.

06-17-2007, 12:35 AM	#9
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	My temp used to do that right before the hg blew the fiznuck out, and I mean lost its' wad. Broke the rear off of 6 on a graphite hg bloched job by previous owner.

06-17-2007, 12:44 PM	#10
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	See, I'm not the only one who thinks you didn't have enough fuel. Run a block test to see if your HG is blown. I would add ARP main studs to that list if I were you.

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