mkiii 7m na....can i swap a 1ggte

Supra2NR · 01-09-2007, 01:18 AM

Well here's the case
X3msupra likes 1jz
Supra2nr likes 7m

Here to support my case that the 7m is better
The 7m has a headgasket problem right?
How much is it to fix the hg problem?
The 1j has a small displacement right?
How much is it to get it bored out when maxing the engine?
Which one cost more?

The 1jz has twins right?
Which can produce more power
Single or twin turbo?
How much is it to get a single turbo kit?
But once again you have to spend more to do that
And guess what, what engine already has a higher displacement and a single turbo already?

7m=2 1j=0

XTREMESUPRA · 01-09-2007, 05:23 AM

ok but then if u put two gt35rs or two 42rs on the engine u are rocking big time and to bore the block its not that expensive. but its what u choose

Supra2NR · 01-09-2007, 06:25 AM

And how much is a 35r a piece let alone two of them?
And the headers?

Well if you have a lot of money
Why not?

The 7m still remains the most cost effective engine

marc · 01-09-2007, 11:35 AM

7m = love

bhg = sumthing liek a busted condom

XTREMESUPRA · 01-09-2007, 01:54 PM

thats why if u gone do a swap u better have a couple friends that can help u out or have a shop that can give u a descent price.

supraman121 · 01-09-2007, 06:44 PM

the 7m i think has more upgrades and the engine is cheaper to repair do to the engine is more popular.

?how much does it cost to bore the 7m engine's cause im na all the way and i was woundering out much it would cost for that little bit of horsepower or tourqe?

XTREMESUPRA · 01-09-2007, 09:32 PM

7M = prone to HG failure, long stroke (bad for rpms), inferior engine management (old technology), poorly designed intake plumbing and exhaust manifold, prone to overheating #6 cylinder, an abortion of accessory belts which are poorly routed, stock head doesn't flow great w/o major work, horrible oiling system

1J = higher redline (7100), cleaner design, not prone to any of the failures listed above for the 7M, stock turbos prone to failure, hard to find SOME EFI parts, stock components can make 600+ HP and rev to over 8100 rpms that why i think 1j is better to start with

Lambolica · 01-26-2007, 07:01 AM

I'm from Australia so I'm not sure on the availabilities but...

Factory 7M-GTE power 232hp@5600 torque 240@4000
Factory 1JZ-GTE power 280hp@6200 torque 269@4600

Here (may be different there) but it is cheaper to bolt in a 1JZ than to rebuild a BHG 7M properly. The swap is as easy as swapping 1 7m For another if you do the research (you guys will need to extend the loom + swap some plug wires) the 1J is more fuel efficient, is quicker in stock form. And doesn't require HG replacement every 5000km. they both respond equally to mods, but the 7M fails at the HG more often than not adding additional rebuild costs.

You guys really seem to like your 7M's

01-09-2007, 01:18 AM	#1
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	supra2nr vs xtremesupra Well here's the case X3msupra likes 1jz Supra2nr likes 7m Here to support my case that the 7m is better The 7m has a headgasket problem right? How much is it to fix the hg problem? The 1j has a small displacement right? How much is it to get it bored out when maxing the engine? Which one cost more? The 1jz has twins right? Which can produce more power Single or twin turbo? How much is it to get a single turbo kit? But once again you have to spend more to do that And guess what, what engine already has a higher displacement and a single turbo already? 7m=2 1j=0 __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

01-09-2007, 05:23 AM	#2
XTREMESUPRA Intake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 33	ok but then if u put two gt35rs or two 42rs on the engine u are rocking big time and to bore the block its not that expensive. but its what u choose __________________

01-09-2007, 06:25 AM	#3
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	And how much is a 35r a piece let alone two of them? And the headers? Well if you have a lot of money Why not? The 7m still remains the most cost effective engine __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

01-09-2007, 11:35 AM	#4
marc 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: salem mass Posts: 329	7m = love bhg = sumthing liek a busted condom __________________ nothing but the best -mods- so far K&N intake fipk 3" megan downpipe 3"turbo elbow 4 washers on the wastegate highflow cat short shifter 89+ front bumper, pic soon to come many more upgrades soon

01-09-2007, 01:54 PM	#5
XTREMESUPRA Intake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 33	thats why if u gone do a swap u better have a couple friends that can help u out or have a shop that can give u a descent price. __________________

01-09-2007, 06:44 PM	#6
supraman121 12psi boost Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 361	the 7m i think has more upgrades and the engine is cheaper to repair do to the engine is more popular. ?how much does it cost to bore the 7m engine's cause im na all the way and i was woundering out much it would cost for that little bit of horsepower or tourqe? __________________ Upgrades- 225/50/R16's Kumho ECSTA AST (KU25) 273 bucks with shipping Magnaflow exhaust NO KAT K&N Air Filter www.myspace.com/coreyjstevens http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1536317037 <------ this one should work check out the accident one aswell ya i might be a "fat kid" but i sure can move fast!~

01-09-2007, 09:32 PM	#7
XTREMESUPRA Intake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 33	7M = prone to HG failure, long stroke (bad for rpms), inferior engine management (old technology), poorly designed intake plumbing and exhaust manifold, prone to overheating #6 cylinder, an abortion of accessory belts which are poorly routed, stock head doesn't flow great w/o major work, horrible oiling system 1J = higher redline (7100), cleaner design, not prone to any of the failures listed above for the 7M, stock turbos prone to failure, hard to find SOME EFI parts, stock components can make 600+ HP and rev to over 8100 rpms that why i think 1j is better to start with __________________

01-26-2007, 07:01 AM	#8
Lambolica Stock Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3	I'm from Australia so I'm not sure on the availabilities but... Factory 7M-GTE power 232hp@5600 torque 240@4000 Factory 1JZ-GTE power 280hp@6200 torque 269@4600 Here (may be different there) but it is cheaper to bolt in a 1JZ than to rebuild a BHG 7M properly. The swap is as easy as swapping 1 7m For another if you do the research (you guys will need to extend the loom + swap some plug wires) the 1J is more fuel efficient, is quicker in stock form. And doesn't require HG replacement every 5000km. they both respond equally to mods, but the 7M fails at the HG more often than not adding additional rebuild costs. You guys really seem to like your 7M's __________________ Black Beauty - 1989 Black 5 Speed Aerotop JZA70 How to fix BHG - Remove 7M p00 - Insert 1JZ goodness..

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