mk3 supra NA vs. Mitsubishi 3000GT NA

lethalwithasupra · 07-31-2006, 06:30 AM

Just too many variables involved to look at 2 charts and say with any credibility what car's faster ( I don't care if you were correct, it's Mr Racer vs Mr Gifted Ameturer ). If he's such a good driver race him again in a few months time after some practice. He sounds cool tho.

Dcrusupra, I'm not sure if you've noticed but that sparkplug looks run through

stealth06 · 08-01-2006, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lethalwithasupra

Just too many variables involved to look at 2 charts and say with any credibility what car's faster ( I don't care if you were correct, it's Mr Racer vs Mr Gifted Ameturer ). If he's such a good driver race him again in a few months time after some practice. He sounds cool tho.

My friend has a manual with an LSD i think im gonna try to get them to race. Should be a better race and im sure the guy in the 3000gt will actually launch it this time. I think the 3000gt may still end up on top tho because i have raced both cars and they won by about the same amount and the guy in 3000gt wasn't trying that hard.

dcrusupra · 08-01-2006, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lethalwithasupra

Dcrusupra, I'm not sure if you've noticed but that sparkplug looks run through

Yes, I like to fuck shit up.

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Originally Posted by frostburn

I REST MY CASE... THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW HOW IT WENT AND UMM... everyone that talked trash to me can now eat there words... cuz i told u... my buddy has a 3000gt... if u owuld read my past posts... thx

Well that was unpleasant, lol.

lethalwithasupra · 08-01-2006, 07:02 AM

May I reitterate a little ?

( I don't care if you were correct, it's Mr Racer vs Mr Gifted Ameturer ).

Dude just cos it's an auto doesn't mean that any driver in the seat is the same. As I said, basically, better drivers own lesser drivers. And the stats for the slower version ( which he was driving ) say the supra will win so you were theoretically wrong but had a lucky guess. All that ticked me off tho was you advising him to bail ... that was kinda painfull to read.

Stealth06 - How does your auto hold against your friend's manual ( I can't actually find any manual supras in my area to race )

stealth06 · 08-01-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lethalwithasupra

Stealth06 - How does your auto hold against your friend's manual ( I can't actually find any manual supras in my area to race )

It held up pretty good he won by a little more than the 3000gt did. But the supra launched it.

rnoswal · 08-02-2006, 01:35 AM

You know, if you didn't lose by much, you could always take everything out of the car before you race the guy next time. Spare tire, jack and stuff, even the targa top removed could help some. Take off the aircleaner just for that race and put some higher octane fuel in it and bump the timing advance up quite a bit. Put a little more air in the tires for less rolling resistance, esp since you probably won't spin the rear tires at launch with the auto.

Make sure your o2 sensor is working right so the mixture is good and turn off the A/C. I dont know if manually shifting a auto car is better or just floor it in drive, maybe some here could answer that one. There are things to racing that can make you fast, but with the auto, you are kind of limited. I think the engine starts to drop hp around 6k, so it is a matter of keeping it in the power band. That is a good way to beat some drivers, because some run it to the redline, but the power has usually fallen off by then.

Get a good tune and good fuel and try some of the things I mentioned. They will help some. Try it again and let us know.

Russ

Supra2NR · 08-02-2006, 01:48 AM

you can remove your spare tire, and the other stuff in your trunk,
take the backseat off too

i dunt know about taking the targa off, cuz i believe that gonna create drag and wind resistance, which will make him slower than when he had it on

i wouldnt take off the aircleaner, why?
because why would want unfiltered air to get your engine?
in the long run those things can ruin your internals
plus is it really worth it for this race?
how much money are you gonna make if you win?

and jus keep the tires at normal pressure, over-inflating your tires will reduce your contact patch which will in term you'll loose grip, and traction
and it can make your ride bumpy in a race, remember you want your car to stay connected to the road as much as it can

and its not really manual shifting the auto its jus launching it
put it in the lowest gear possible , when you launch it have it redline then put it back to "D", then punch that pedal , and hope for the best

rnoswal · 08-02-2006, 02:06 AM

Well I just meant take the airfilter off for that race! I am assuming that it won't be on a dirt road. I differ on the tire inflation deal though. If the rear tires had a problem with spinning then yes lower the pressures a few lbs, but not too much, but the N/A auto supra is not going to spin the tires, so for less rolling resistance I still suggest bringing the tire inflation up to at least the recommende limit. It will mean less rolling resistance and the difference will be so slight as to not even be noticeable as far as the ride goes, but it will help mileage and it will make the car roll better. When you are done with the race and if it is too rough, back the pressures back to 30 or so.

You are probably right about the wind resistance with the top off, so keep it on and keep the windows rolled up during the race. You WILL notice a difference with the air filter off, even if you have a K & N filter and the difference will be a little bit faster car.

Russ

07-31-2006, 06:30 AM	#1
lethalwithasupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: south cantebury Posts: 112	Still sounds like fun Just too many variables involved to look at 2 charts and say with any credibility what car's faster ( I don't care if you were correct, it's Mr Racer vs Mr Gifted Ameturer ). If he's such a good driver race him again in a few months time after some practice. He sounds cool tho. Dcrusupra, I'm not sure if you've noticed but that sparkplug looks run through __________________ So I bought this old Honda bike, an NSR250. Bit of a street racer, I guess. I'm told they're fast. Delivering it home with a friend driving the Supra for the first time. I drop gears and make a scream from the twin pipes flowing down this pony's flanks and it takes off like it's tail's on fire. I look back when the Honda gets to its tap-out and the Supra's only two lengths behind. No one I've let ride my bike has told me its slow, they've all loved the thing. That car is a good thing indeed.

08-01-2006, 07:02 AM	#4
lethalwithasupra 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: south cantebury Posts: 112	May I reitterate a little ? ( I don't care if you were correct, it's Mr Racer vs Mr Gifted Ameturer ). Dude just cos it's an auto doesn't mean that any driver in the seat is the same. As I said, basically, better drivers own lesser drivers. And the stats for the slower version ( which he was driving ) say the supra will win so you were theoretically wrong but had a lucky guess. All that ticked me off tho was you advising him to bail ... that was kinda painfull to read. Stealth06 - How does your auto hold against your friend's manual ( I can't actually find any manual supras in my area to race ) __________________ So I bought this old Honda bike, an NSR250. Bit of a street racer, I guess. I'm told they're fast. Delivering it home with a friend driving the Supra for the first time. I drop gears and make a scream from the twin pipes flowing down this pony's flanks and it takes off like it's tail's on fire. I look back when the Honda gets to its tap-out and the Supra's only two lengths behind. No one I've let ride my bike has told me its slow, they've all loved the thing. That car is a good thing indeed.

08-02-2006, 01:48 AM	#7
Supra2NR 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 1,643	you can remove your spare tire, and the other stuff in your trunk, take the backseat off too i dunt know about taking the targa off, cuz i believe that gonna create drag and wind resistance, which will make him slower than when he had it on i wouldnt take off the aircleaner, why? because why would want unfiltered air to get your engine? in the long run those things can ruin your internals plus is it really worth it for this race? how much money are you gonna make if you win? and jus keep the tires at normal pressure, over-inflating your tires will reduce your contact patch which will in term you'll loose grip, and traction and it can make your ride bumpy in a race, remember you want your car to stay connected to the road as much as it can and its not really manual shifting the auto its jus launching it put it in the lowest gear possible , when you launch it have it redline then put it back to "D", then punch that pedal , and hope for the best __________________ http://www.myspace.com/supra_2nr Into Bikes now,, apparently the supra couldnt kill me, so my zx6 might lol

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08-02-2006, 01:35 AM	#6
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	You know, if you didn't lose by much, you could always take everything out of the car before you race the guy next time. Spare tire, jack and stuff, even the targa top removed could help some. Take off the aircleaner just for that race and put some higher octane fuel in it and bump the timing advance up quite a bit. Put a little more air in the tires for less rolling resistance, esp since you probably won't spin the rear tires at launch with the auto. Make sure your o2 sensor is working right so the mixture is good and turn off the A/C. I dont know if manually shifting a auto car is better or just floor it in drive, maybe some here could answer that one. There are things to racing that can make you fast, but with the auto, you are kind of limited. I think the engine starts to drop hp around 6k, so it is a matter of keeping it in the power band. That is a good way to beat some drivers, because some run it to the redline, but the power has usually fallen off by then. Get a good tune and good fuel and try some of the things I mentioned. They will help some. Try it again and let us know. Russ

08-02-2006, 02:06 AM	#8
rnoswal Lexus & 550's Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bossier City LA Posts: 556	Well I just meant take the airfilter off for that race! I am assuming that it won't be on a dirt road. I differ on the tire inflation deal though. If the rear tires had a problem with spinning then yes lower the pressures a few lbs, but not too much, but the N/A auto supra is not going to spin the tires, so for less rolling resistance I still suggest bringing the tire inflation up to at least the recommende limit. It will mean less rolling resistance and the difference will be so slight as to not even be noticeable as far as the ride goes, but it will help mileage and it will make the car roll better. When you are done with the race and if it is too rough, back the pressures back to 30 or so. You are probably right about the wind resistance with the top off, so keep it on and keep the windows rolled up during the race. You WILL notice a difference with the air filter off, even if you have a K & N filter and the difference will be a little bit faster car. Russ