which engine is the best engine for little money, fast, durable?

[ochowdero]

This is the exact kind of feedback i was looking for. thank you!

i originally planned to go with the 7mgte because its cheaper and with proper rebuilding and maintenance it can withstand alot of hp. (plus i have a 7mge so a gte swap wouldnt be to hard at all)
im fond of the 7m i love them simply because people think theyre a crap performance engine because of the BHG. i dont want to fall into the 2jz scene purely because of "quick power". i believe reaching a goal of 400hp, if i even want to have that much, is cheaper in the long run with the 7m. am i correct?
people have their opinions and since i never rebuilt these motors before i dont know the difference in cost/power ratio with them.

like you said, with stock components and a kept up or rebuilt 7m with minor turbo upgrades, fuel injectors and others pushing 320!? not bad and im sure you didnt spend to much.

i hope more people hop into this convo, this may help out alot of people with the same questions. and since i couldnt find it on the forum anymore...

[cre]

The spec is 78 ft lbs when using moly grease. ARP has updated their specs and now specify a higher torque than that. You generally want to use 30 weight oil when lubricating fasteners. I recommend against using a variable viscosity lubricant for critical fasteners.

Swapping in a 2JZ will cost a lot more than swapping in a 7M-GTE and upgrading it for a mere 400RWHP. The 2JZ is cheaper to get 400RWHP out of IF it's already in the car. The 2JZ is more reliable but the 7M can be quite reliable if shortcuts aren't taken and the person doing the work pays close attention to the details. A 7M refreshed to stock conditions, using stock parts can manage 400RWHP pretty reliably. I'd upgrade a few things while the engine was out, naturally, but it doesn't have to be a monster build.

[CanadianBak'inSupra]

7mgte ARP studs:

not sure when they were manufactured but i just used them in a 5mge a week ago. i only went 80 lbs.

[907mge]

What is your budget?

[cre]

Originally Posted by 907mge

What is your budget?

You should know the answer to that:

The MKIII Supra is an amazing vehicle and project car. It's not just a matter of what can be achieved in terms of performance but much more so the vehicle's uncanny ability to detect your total budget and ensure that the cost of ANY project will always exceed that sum by $500 or more.

[ochowdero]

Originally Posted by cre

You should know the answer to that:

The MKIII Supra is an amazing vehicle and project car. It's not just a matter of what can be achieved in terms of performance but much more so the vehicle's uncanny ability to detect your total budget and ensure that the cost of ANY project will always exceed that sum by $500 or more.

Cre said it.

i personally havent really set a budget aside. just for the fact itll be a slow process until i can start getting deep into the build. being busy all the time and limited funds as of right now i cant do much but maintain my engine now and get it up to par and maybe mods here and there that are transferable to the 7mgte.
as soon as i know what i want to do with the 7mgte and get a parts lists going of what needs to be done and need for the build i will work a budget and hope that the supra doesnt force me to go over what i want.

to answer your question, a 2jzgte swap with minor mods pushing around 500hp? is about what? $2000-$3000+ ..since im going with the 7mgte, with less then 450hp, id say around half of what i would spend for the 2j.

[cre]

I'd start with suspension and brake upgrades, then start collecting parts. Some things such as a fuel controller, wideband controller, adjustable FPR and stronger fuel pump may all be installed while still running the N/A and it will give you a chance to learn the fuel controller. You can also install a good oil cooling system on the GE which will still be used on the GTE.

[TOMDYE]

Originally Posted by ochowdero

Cre said it.

i personally havent really set a budget aside. just for the fact itll be a slow process until i can start getting deep into the build. being busy all the time and limited funds as of right now i cant do much but maintain my engine now and get it up to par and maybe mods here and there that are transferable to the 7mgte.
as soon as i know what i want to do with the 7mgte and get a parts lists going of what needs to be done and need for the build i will work a budget and hope that the supra doesnt force me to go over what i want.

to answer your question, a 2jzgte swap with minor mods pushing around 500hp? is about what? $2000-$3000+ ..since im going with the 7mgte, with less then 450hp, id say around half of what i would spend for the 2j.

ochowdero:

I am going through a similiar decision-making process as you are with regards to my '89 turbo-charged 7MGTE. My current motor has a BHG and smoe oil burn. I have not opened up the motor, so I am not sure if the latter is due to rings or valve-guide seals. The mortor has 126K miles, and I do not drive it hard, in fact I only drive about 5,000 mi per year since 2007. So rings should nt be the issue.

I decided to swap out this motor for a JDM - 7MGTE. I will have my old block for reasonable price, if you are interested. Let me know.