One Piece Drive Shaft? experiences?

[Ranma]

The punk that sold me my car needs to be drawn and quartered or better forced to drive only government motors cars or trucks. The bleepard had put a one piece ford drive shaft in mine

[87hilux7mge]

Originally Posted by Ranma

The punk that sold me my car needs to be drawn and quartered or better forced to drive only government motors cars or trucks. The bleepard had put a one piece ford drive shaft in mine

ouch

[Ranma]

Originally Posted by 87hilux7mge

ouch

Little brat went back to Arizona, yea a one piece Ford driveshaft that would not balance out. (shop said it was ok) Suppose if you want to drift it makes no difference about the drive ability of the car. So what is a one piece drive shat suppose to do? What puzzles me is people on this blog are so CHEAP. Not wanting to put even a few extra dollars into their cars for quality.

[87hilux7mge]

now ranma, there are cheap ppl here, but most of us are "budget minded" (ie: basically cheap haha)

i dont mind spending some bux to make my car/truck better. but when it comes to 80 dollar bearings that have gone out within 5-8k miles, that adds up, and it shouldnt be that way.

ive had to replace my dads carrier bearing 8 times since hes owned the truck. that is the only thing besides brakes, air filter, plugs, wires and oil changes hes had done. we finally put a one piece driveshaft in, and voila, works perfect with no problems, for the past 35k.

a one piece drive shaft takes less power to turn, therefore providing more power to the ground. so if you do a performance build it is advantageous.

in the case of carl's (thread starter) he wants a drive shaft that is easier to change u joints in, and one that he doesnt have to replace the carrier bearing so often in. he pushes this car pretty hard. so a one piece driveshaft enables him to have longer running intervals before replacement of u joints, as well as more power to the ground, while sacrificing minimal ride comfort.

for his application, it works and is reasonable. for a daily street driven supra, the stock 2 piece driveshaft is definitely more comfortable and suits it just fine.

[Ranma]

Well Carl is into drifting and it destroys cars. I have oh 35 years of driving experience in all type of cars and can not remember having the u joints of any of my cars go out. This includes some high millage "heart breaks of America". My Fire Chicken had 220,000 miles on it when I finally sold it. I bought it new and one of my fondest memories is the slight of it driving toward Mexico.
As for restoring my Mk III, it is costing me a lot of money. It was not a question of replacing pieces of it but entire systems. Replaced the exhaust system from the head to the diffuser. Rebuilt the engine block, replaced the steering, replaced the drive shaft, rebuilt the differential and axles. The little jerk had overheated the engine cracking the head and blew out the cat. That destroyed the exhaust. After I am done will be a sweat ride *grins* He is in the pain barn and we found new trim pieces.
My point is it is better to spend a little extra upfront to avoid paying over and over.

[carl johansson]

ranma,
I take offense to your characterization of me, and your suppositions .

I do not drift any cars. not my bag. I do though race cars, in my opinion the most noble thing you can do with a car. if i wanted to never break a car, I would put it in my living room and polish it up every day, and never drive it. Instead I choose to use my supras, we have 3 of them right now, all 3 were rescued from the car crusher, 2 are now running race cars, the 3rd is used for a parts car. i do usev my cars and trucks as tools, They are for me to have fun in, as well as for me to use for work.
breaking a car is not destroying it, all cars ever built break down and require replacement parts!

I drive over 50K miles per year, 20 K of that in a toyota 4runner decked out for 4 wheeling - which for me is not a hobby, but a tool, as i spend 4 months of the year surveying abandoned mines here in the west. That requires many miles of offroad driving - not for fun! If that vehicle breaks I'm in for 20 - 50 miles of hiking to get out, unless I find help. So I do know how to maintain my vehicles, and get the most out of them. There are not alot of other people who can claim 135 hours of road racing without a single breakdown! We can!


I am glad you hasve never had Ujoints go out - congratulations - that must be some sort of record! QUOTE=Ranma;98485]Well Carl is into drifting and it destroys cars. I have oh 35 years of driving experience in all type of cars and can not remember having the u joints of any of my cars go out. This includes some high millage "heart breaks of America". My Fire Chicken had 220,000 miles on it when I finally sold it. I bought it new and one of my fondest memories is the slight of it driving toward Mexico.
As for restoring my Mk III, it is costing me a lot of money. It was not a question of replacing pieces of it but entire systems. Replaced the exhaust system from the head to the diffuser. Rebuilt the engine block, replaced the steering, replaced the drive shaft, rebuilt the differential and axles. The little jerk had overheated the engine cracking the head and blew out the cat. That destroyed the exhaust. After I am done will be a sweat ride *grins* He is in the pain barn and we found new trim pieces.
My point is it is better to spend a little extra upfront to avoid paying over and over.

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[Ranma]

Originally Posted by carl johansson

ranma,
I take offense to your characterization of me, and your suppositions .

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I hear you and please accept my apologies, did not mean to offend. We have a lots of kids near me who drift in the streets and vacant parking lots. It gets on my nerves... Anyhow please forgive my assumptions.

Originally Posted by carl johansson

I do not drift any cars. not my bag. I do though race cars, in my opinion the most noble thing you can do with a car. if i wanted to never break a car, I would put it in my living room and polish it up every day, and never drive it. Instead I choose to use my supras, we have 3 of them right now, all 3 were rescued from the car crusher, 2 are now running race cars, the 3rd is used for a parts car. i do usev my cars and trucks as tools, They are for me to have fun in, as well as for me to use for work.
breaking a car is not destroying it, all cars ever built break down and require replacement parts!

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So how would a one piece drive shaft help you? Mine had a vibration starting at 55 mph and getting worse with speed. The vibration was making the fillings lose in my mouth. We tried everything to rid ourselves of it. Decided to ditch the ford drive shaft and rebuild everything aft of it. My guy runs like a champ now *grins* Drive train is smoother than my 09 daily.
I do agree with you, cars are meant to be driven, not driving them is worse then driving. So tell me more about your racing. What type is racing is a Supra good at? Would love to top end mine at a track You are right cars are meant to be driven.

[worm611]

http://shaftmasters.com/toyota-supra...iveshaft3.html

Read some posts on forums about guys running this shaft, I purchased one, but did not install it yet, quality looks great!

[87hilux7mge]

nor do i destroy vehicles just to do it. i have saved more 3rd gen camaros and toyota pickups from the rust pile than i can count.

but in the same note, i do drive my vehicles, and hard (no i dont drift. wouldnt mind trying, but there are tracks for that).

i try and build everything so it will last as long as possible and dont cut corners. hence why ive been taking so long building the motor for my pickup right now. i have literally taken apart, cleaned, reconditioned and reassembled EVERY nut, bolt and part on this motor. why? cuz i dont want to have to do it again any time soon. this goes the same for the rest of the drivetrain, body, interior etc.

neway. i can understand you being upset kids terrorizing the neighborhood. we have the honda-heads here in spokane driving like retards all the time.

[Ranma]

Originally Posted by 87hilux7mge

nor do i destroy vehicles just to do it. i have saved more 3rd gen camaros and toyota pickups from the rust pile than i can count.

but in the same note, i do drive my vehicles, and hard (no i dont drift. wouldnt mind trying, but there are tracks for that).

i try and build everything so it will last as long as possible and dont cut corners. hence why ive been taking so long building the motor for my pickup right now. i have literally taken apart, cleaned, reconditioned and reassembled EVERY nut, bolt and part on this motor. why? cuz i dont want to have to do it again any time soon. this goes the same for the rest of the drivetrain, body, interior etc.

neway. i can understand you being upset kids terrorizing the neighborhood. we have the honda-heads here in spokane driving like retards all the time.

Problem with a single piece drive shaft is the vibration. Like airplanes vibration is a destructive force. There are cases of airliners falling apart in flight from harmonic vibrations. My guy started at 55 and by 75 was loosing the fillings on my teeth. Now Carol what sort of racing do you do? The vibration must be hell over 100. At a certain point the vibration will overcome any advantages. Now if you want one piece the Government Motors Camaros and Fire Chickens have them.