Transmission rant, help! Need advice or anything, asap

cre · 03-06-2011, 01:27 AM

I don't know the difference with that clutch fork, I'm assuming the bell housing and slave cylinder are different. You can use a clutch fork from a Cressida which may be easier to find in a salvage yard.

ochowdero · 03-06-2011, 03:53 AM

yeah i found a cressida with the pedals and fork with the boot soo i hoping monday its still there...
dang you werent lying that this was a hard task hahaha

ochowdero · 03-06-2011, 03:57 AM

theres also a line that goes from the slave to the clutch fork and throw out bearing..
is that a soft line or a hardline.?

cre · 03-06-2011, 06:45 AM

Huh? From the slave to the fork? The slave it directly in contact with the fork... there's no hose there. It's a simple hydraulic, the only hose runs from the master cylinder (whose piston is connected to the clutch pedal arm) to the slave cylinder which is bolted to the bell housing (whose piston pushes the fork). The line runs from the master as a hard line which then connects to a soft line for the run from the firewall to the slave cylinder... So it's half and half. :P

I thought you had already ordered the hose?

btwilson86 · 03-06-2011, 07:52 AM

Hey ochowdero, here's the pn for the bushing that you need to replace on that tranny where the shifter goes: 33505-35020. Should be a few bucks from Toyota, just give them the number

cre · 03-06-2011, 08:35 AM

Might as well replace the seat too and inspect the actuator's metal sleeve which the tip of the shifter sits in for wear of the rubber damper. Many like the nylon bushing and seat from Marlin Crawler; I like them on the W58, on the R154 they make the notchiness of the transmission more noticeable.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...ver-ball-seats
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...t-lever-socket

With the seats I think you need the red one, but I'd send them an email to make sure.

ochowdero · 03-06-2011, 08:42 AM

that sits inside under the shift bushing? or is that the bushing?
and thanks btwilson, much needed help

and for the lines that goes to the clutch fork, is it soft or a hardline?
i only have the one that goes from the clutch master to the slave cylinder

ochowdero · 03-06-2011, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

Huh? From the slave to the fork? The slave it directly in contact with the fork... there's no hose there. It's a simple hydraulic, the only hose runs from the master cylinder (whose piston is connected to the clutch pedal arm) to the slave cylinder which is bolted to the bell housing (whose piston pushes the fork). The line runs from the master as a hard line which then connects to a soft line for the run from the firewall to the slave cylinder... So it's half and half. :P

I thought you had already ordered the hose?

sorry i missed this post ha,

no i didnt order it i pulled it off a car..
like i posted back to btwilson, when i looked at the slave i just figured someone pulled the line before i did..
that good to know, i just hope i get all the parts needed, even the small ones..
im hoping to do the swap next weekish...

cre · 03-07-2011, 03:20 AM

Looks like this only covers the engine...

http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...tener-kit.html

If you look at the front of each section it'll show you the fasteners used in the exploded view and gives the torque values (look at the bottom of the page for the legend). It'll look like 400 (30, 40) These are different standards of torque measurement. Use the one which matches the wrench you're using.

As for the measurements of each of the fasteners, I don't know what to tell ya. Wait until you get everything installed as best you can and call a dealership with the part numbers from the EPC... if they can't look up the measurements I'm sure they'll be happy to sell you the ones you know will fit anyway.

ochowdero · 03-07-2011, 08:25 AM

omg thanks haha,
that saves my life,
you know how many bolts and pluggs i lost holding on the moldings of the car? haha

03-06-2011, 01:27 AM	#1
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	I don't know the difference with that clutch fork, I'm assuming the bell housing and slave cylinder are different. You can use a clutch fork from a Cressida which may be easier to find in a salvage yard. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-06-2011, 03:53 AM	#2
ochowdero 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 277	yeah i found a cressida with the pedals and fork with the boot soo i hoping monday its still there... dang you werent lying that this was a hard task hahaha __________________ 1987 supra, BLUE 7mge.. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP.. i really want turbo

03-06-2011, 03:57 AM	#3
ochowdero 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 277	theres also a line that goes from the slave to the clutch fork and throw out bearing.. is that a soft line or a hardline.? __________________ 1987 supra, BLUE 7mge.. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP.. i really want turbo

03-06-2011, 06:45 AM	#4
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Huh? From the slave to the fork? The slave it directly in contact with the fork... there's no hose there. It's a simple hydraulic, the only hose runs from the master cylinder (whose piston is connected to the clutch pedal arm) to the slave cylinder which is bolted to the bell housing (whose piston pushes the fork). The line runs from the master as a hard line which then connects to a soft line for the run from the firewall to the slave cylinder... So it's half and half. :P I thought you had already ordered the hose? __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-06-2011, 07:52 AM	#5
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Hey ochowdero, here's the pn for the bushing that you need to replace on that tranny where the shifter goes: 33505-35020. Should be a few bucks from Toyota, just give them the number __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

03-06-2011, 08:35 AM	#6
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Might as well replace the seat too and inspect the actuator's metal sleeve which the tip of the shifter sits in for wear of the rubber damper. Many like the nylon bushing and seat from Marlin Crawler; I like them on the W58, on the R154 they make the notchiness of the transmission more noticeable. http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...ver-ball-seats http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...t-lever-socket With the seats I think you need the red one, but I'd send them an email to make sure. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-06-2011, 08:42 AM	#7
ochowdero 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 277	that sits inside under the shift bushing? or is that the bushing? and thanks btwilson, much needed help and for the lines that goes to the clutch fork, is it soft or a hardline? i only have the one that goes from the clutch master to the slave cylinder __________________ 1987 supra, BLUE 7mge.. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP.. i really want turbo Last edited by ochowdero; 03-06-2011 at 08:44 AM.

03-07-2011, 03:20 AM	#9
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Looks like this only covers the engine... http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...tener-kit.html If you look at the front of each section it'll show you the fasteners used in the exploded view and gives the torque values (look at the bottom of the page for the legend). It'll look like 400 (30, 40) These are different standards of torque measurement. Use the one which matches the wrench you're using. As for the measurements of each of the fasteners, I don't know what to tell ya. Wait until you get everything installed as best you can and call a dealership with the part numbers from the EPC... if they can't look up the measurements I'm sure they'll be happy to sell you the ones you know will fit anyway. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-07-2011, 08:25 AM	#10
ochowdero 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 277	omg thanks haha, that saves my life, you know how many bolts and pluggs i lost holding on the moldings of the car? haha __________________ 1987 supra, BLUE 7mge.. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP.. i really want turbo

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