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Travis89Turbo 09-26-2010 03:03 AM

Do this. Using a volt meter check the voltage on the big wire at the starter using the block as a ground. That'll tell u if the battery is grounded properly. Then get back with us

Good voltage is 12.8... but the starter will activate between 11.8-14.4 volts

ochowdero 09-26-2010 06:20 PM

push start
 
ok before anything..

i didnt think to ask if you have done this...

i dont believe your problem is with wiring...

push start your car!
by this i mean.. you sit in the driver seat and have your dad or brother or whoever push the car down the street while doing that have the car in neutral(duh), and start the car like normal..(as your getting pushed)

if it starts then, its mostlikely your distributer or your starter..but IIRC, you replaced your starter, so it could be your distributer

Travis89Turbo 09-26-2010 07:21 PM

Hahaha.... The distributor wont stop the engine from turning over.... and what u described is not how u push start a car..

Have the car in first gear and the clutch pressed in while getting pushed, or pulled even better once u get some speed drop the clutch with the key in The on position. Not the cranking position

86.5 7MGE 09-27-2010 03:09 AM

I have found it less traumatizing and easier if you use the 2nd gear instead of the first gear when push starting the car... This method also works if your alarm has enabled and is keeping the car from starting. Oh yea, and do make sure before doing this that your EFI fuse is back in...

ochowdero 09-27-2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis89Turbo (Post 88223)
Hahaha.... The distributor wont stop the engine from turning over.... and what u described is not how u push start a car..

Have the car in first gear and the clutch pressed in while getting pushed, or pulled even better once u get some speed drop the clutch with the key in The on position. Not the cranking position

my dude...the distributer sends a spark to the spark plug at the right time..
especially when starting the car... its the main purpose of it...

me and my friend just recently couldnt get his car to start, so i hopped in it threw it in neutral, and rolled down his driveway.. held the clutch in as i got speed(comin out of his driveway and rolling foward at this point)..threw it in first, turned ignition.. and dropped the clutch..it started right up.. noticed a ticking sound on the distributer. my friend of mine is a well-trusted master mechanic, does all tune ups on nascars...i believed him when he said it was the distributer... the starter had volts, battery, wiring, and as well as amps to start it up and it didnt turn over....

i may be wrong...it might not be the distributer but this is a forum for opinions..and in my opinion, this may be it... he has been saying that "everything" we told him to do; all the volts and amps were good..soo my only other guess is that...

ochowdero 09-27-2010 10:55 AM

not saying its directly involved in ignition but it aids in correct timing of the spark..IE combustion..

if you got the car running and it doesnt respond at high rpms as well as low, this will also result in a faulty distributor, as well as leaks..(mostlikely the leaks, bad distributors are not likely, but are sometimes a missed thought of correction)

Travis89Turbo 09-27-2010 02:24 PM

YEAH I know what a distributor does...

He has a problem with the car not CRANKING OVER so how could it be related to the distributor if its not even turning??????????????

THE DISTRIBUTOR IS NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM RELATED TO THE STARTER CRANKING OVER!!!! The car will crank over with the distributor not even installed in the car (u shouldnt do this though)

ochowdero 09-28-2010 12:19 AM

choose your own answers and diagnosis, use us to help aid you
 
this is an informed opinion...this guy has told you multiple times that the big wire holds volts, lil one to, and the starter is replaced, battery is good...grounds are connected, positive and negative the whole cha-bang.

i merely said to push start the car to see if it will turn over, check for a ticking sound by the ecu and distributor, (he already has a ticking sound by the ecu, i think its a ignition wiring problem) if the car is running but at high rpms it loses power (spark) its the distributor. like i said.. many times you dont look at something becuz ppl believe its not the problem and listen to them...
THIS IS A FORUM, THIS HAPPEN IN MY EXPERIENCE AND THIS IS WHAT I DID TO GET IT TO WORK..ONLY AN OPINION. believe or not

just push start the car to see if it turns over..if it runs, pop the hood and listen for a ticking sound and locate the sound. believe travis or me about the problem, its an opinion and you have to choose your best answer by yourself.. dont believe just one person..take everyones answers and figure it out..

but like i said this happened to my friends car not to long ago, i had no idea what the problem was, i thought it was a dead battery and we were stuck in del taco. so we called his dad(master mechanic) he came down, we told him what happen and we popped the hood and heard a ticking sound on the left side of the engine.. he came over and located it as to the distributor.. we pushed started the car.. it ran we took it home and the next it ran again but we needed to change the distributor...after that never had a problem again...he told us just to keep our IGNITION COMPONENTS on watch becuz they can go bad anytime..this happened again to another friend and i i immediately did what my friends dad did before and it ran fine..

and again.. this may not be the problem.. but in my experience..push starting the car helped and we were able to find out the real problem once we got the car running..

Travis89Turbo 09-28-2010 01:01 AM

400mv is not holding voltage... The power on the big cable NEEDS TO BE A SOLID 12 VOLTS. OR 12,000MV. IF IT HAS THAT AND A GROUND THEN CHECK THE SIGNAL WIRE WHEN THE KEY IS BEIN TURNED...AND AGAIN THE DISTRIBUTOR IS NO POSSIBLE WAY YOUR PROBLEM! IT WON'T STOP THE CAR FROM CRANKING.... THAT'S BASIC MECHANICS.. I don't care who's car its on... I m done trying to solve your problem cuz u ain't listening to me.. it would take 1 min to figure if the problem is the starter (i don't care if its new it can still be bad) or wires. A simple 2 wire test..

btwilson86 09-28-2010 04:16 AM

Alright, that's enough arguing in this guys thread. Ochowdero, Travis89Turbo, your posts in this thread are being edited so that all irrelevant information is deleted and this thread can stay on topic.

OP, please post back with your findings so that we may be able to continue to help


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