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Conga1991 09-16-2010 03:52 AM

If you read what I posted above I did and the readings was read. It would start from 0 m V and go up to 400 m V, not sure what this means. but from what my brother-in-law thinks it might be charging up then dies or something, so it must be the battery cable right?

ochowdero 09-16-2010 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Conga1991 (Post 87866)
If you read what I posted above I did and the readings was read. It would start from 0 m V and go up to 400 m V, not sure what this means. but from what my brother-in-law thinks it might be charging up then dies or something, so it must be the battery cable right?

my car wouldnt start a day ago, jump it and got it to the shop,
alot of corrosion was on the battery cables..
took them off, pull the battery out, poured alil of baking soda and water(or coca cola will work) on the battery prongs, sprayed it down with water to get excess corrosion off..the loaded it up in my friends trunk to take to pep boys to get tested..

before i left for that, i got some coke and let the battery cable sit inside a cup full of it to eat the corrosion off til i got back

tested my battery, it held 12 volts which is need but lil to no amps..so it couldnt start the car...BAD BATTERY

i reccomend doing this before anything my friend...
if its a new battery then its the cables... replace the cables.. if it still doesnt work its the starter..
simple as that...
hope it works

Conga1991 09-16-2010 05:55 AM

Thanks! I'll do that tomorrow and hopefully it will work, other then that I just got to fix the coolant leak and the fuel leak that I thought I fixed but didnt :/ so every time i try to turn it over it leaks a bit. but i pulled the efi fuse so it doesn flood the cylinders.

ochowdero 09-16-2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Conga1991 (Post 87873)
Thanks! I'll do that tomorrow and hopefully it will work, other then that I just got to fix the coolant leak and the fuel leak that I thought I fixed but didnt :/ so every time i try to turn it over it leaks a bit. but i pulled the efi fuse so it doesn flood the cylinders.

IIRC, the efi fuse keeps the ignition from firing...we had you pull it in the first place just to make sure your starter clicks(pulled it so when you turned the key fuel didnt flow into the cylinders)it didnt click meaning there was not enough power to run it..
plug your efi fuse back in after you test the battery and clean your cables..
other words itll never start
i believe the efi does that..either way plug it back in after you clean and test the battery

ochowdero 09-16-2010 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Conga1991 (Post 87873)
other then that I just got to fix the coolant leak and the fuel leak that I thought I fixed but didnt :/ so every time i try to turn it over it leaks a bit.

the coolant isnt that tricky
go under your car and see if theres grease build up
if there is then power wash the bottom of your car and make sure theres no grease or any fluid for that manner..
wait a day and see if there is any trace of fluid..(on the frame, hoses, panels etc)
should be easier to spot it on the actually hoses and panels its flowing from then the spots on the ground haha

still cant find them i suggest following the coolant cables to find any cracks or nics in them.. if you found one replace the hoses..(with the correct hose!)
another way is to get a spray bottle, fill it with soap and water, shake it up and turn on your car*EDIT* and a/c full blast(ofcourse do this after you get it running) spray your coolant hoses and ac hoses to see if there is any leak...(the water on the hose should bubble up and pop a few times..just keep spraying if you think you missed one) this method actually works haha:nuts:

the fuel leak, im not familiar with that..
i believe i have a very very very very very very small leak but not enough for me to worry about now..
for me and congo to know..how do you fix and/or find a leaking fuel line?

Travis89Turbo 09-16-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Conga1991 (Post 87866)
If you read what I posted above I did and the readings was read. It would start from 0 m V and go up to 400 m V, not sure what this means. but from what my brother-in-law thinks it might be charging up then dies or something, so it must be the battery cable right?

It sounds like your talking about the big cable? I need the readings off of both cables please. 400mv is nowhere near enough signal to start it. If that's the big cable with that reading then replacing the cable will fix this. If its the little one then there is something wrong on the ignition side of things. 1000mv equals 1v by the way so u should have 12k if reading mv. 400mv could just be voltage noise. Or a bad ground. U hooked the ground up on the block right?

ochowdero 09-17-2010 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis89Turbo (Post 87879)
It sounds like your talking about the big cable? I need the readings off of both cables please. 400mv is nowhere near enough signal to start it. If that's the big cable with that reading then replacing the cable will fix this. If its the little one then there is something wrong on the ignition side of things. 1000mv equals 1v by the way so u should have 12k if reading mv. 400mv could just be voltage noise. Or a bad ground. U hooked the ground up on the block right?

could be a bad battery..
battery with enough volts will turn on the components in the car but if it doesnt have over 450 amps it wont start the car..
(450 amps could be wrong, when i tested mine it read 212 amps and it was nowhere near good, soo maybe anything higher then 300?)

idk like i said just have pep boys test it.. if its bad then its the battery,
get a new one and if it still doesnt start the car its the big wire going to the starter.. replace that and should be running!

Conga1991 09-17-2010 05:34 PM

Ok, so I pulled the big wire off the starter and a plastic ring (seemed to be used so the nut doesnt touch the starter) broke in half and cant use it. is it needed or no? wanted to make sure before hooking the battery cable up.

Conga1991 09-17-2010 10:24 PM

The wire thats grounded to the block, it grounds to one of the two bolts to the left of the diamond like plate right? or does it grounded to the nut on the diamond like plate?

Conga1991 09-17-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ochowdero (Post 87875)
the coolant isnt that tricky
go under your car and see if theres grease build up
if there is then power wash the bottom of your car and make sure theres no grease or any fluid for that manner..
wait a day and see if there is any trace of fluid..(on the frame, hoses, panels etc)
should be easier to spot it on the actually hoses and panels its flowing from then the spots on the ground haha

still cant find them i suggest following the coolant cables to find any cracks or nics in them.. if you found one replace the hoses..(with the correct hose!)
?

I know where the leaks are comig from, how do I fix hem without replacing the hose since its coming from the hard line that goes around the block, I can get do them if I just pull the exhaust manifold off and the intake plenum cuz those are the only two places that are leaking coolant. but the one under the intake plenum is barely dripping coolant unlike the other side whenever i try turning it over it drips like crazy!


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