Ma and Pa Kettle change their brakes!

Bill UK · 01-05-2010, 03:48 PM

You guys must have different brake/hub setup to the UK Supra, I’m sure I needed to removed the hub to knock the wheel stud completely through.

Green7mgte · 01-05-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill UK

You guys must have different brake/hub setup to the UK Supra, I’m sure I needed to removed the hub to knock the wheel stud completely through.

naw. if you diden't have a dust guard on it you might of been able to get at it.
but as it is after you remove the caliper torque plate and pull the rotor off
the dust shield is blocking access to behind the hub. the bolts to the dust plate are.. located behind the hub.. hah. so now im looking on how to remove my hub

time elapse 3 minutes...
wtf? do i really need to take my hub off?
time elapse 4 minutes..
im really not wanting to take my hub off. so my decision is this. i just hit the stud out threw the hole in the first place. I can grab it and bring it back but its not tight. ill try to tighten it using the new installation method but if that dosent work im just going to re-assemble and once i get my tire on ill just lug nut it down. still compleatly safe and by the time i have to remove my tire again itl be rusted on there and Ill prolly forget that it was even broken. any yea or nay to this.

cre · 01-05-2010, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill UK

You guys must have different brake/hub setup to the UK Supra, I’m sure I needed to removed the hub to knock the wheel stud completely through.

The ABS hub is harder to work around but it can still be done... non-ABS is wide open.

Green7mgte · 01-05-2010, 07:19 PM

abs.. raises hand..

i re-assembled everything but i still have a hairs worth of clearance i cant get passed. thats what made me go hammer crazy in the first place.. I do have my rotor bolted into place to avoid slant but still have that fingernail size worth of clearance from my caliper over the brake pad i cant clear. I called AAP and double checked the size of the pads and they said its correct. warped rotor maybe? just a faction of an inch outa whack?

cre · 01-05-2010, 07:33 PM

have you compressed the caliper's piston back into the housing? Warped rotors aren't straight... they're not suddenly thicker.

Green7mgte · 01-05-2010, 07:42 PM

everything is compressed. i have allot of clearance on the caliper piston side. just when i go to put the caliper back over the pads the front one is a hair to thick. same problem on the otherside but eventually something slid into postition. I fallowed the same method i did before. wtf changing brakes is level 1 car stuff. Before i started i called a friend of mine and said."hey its ok to change brakes when its snowing out right" and he said "yea you can change brakes in the snow" well i guess not.

cre · 01-05-2010, 07:47 PM

Are you running aftermarket rotors? A local guy I know is running OEM style Brembo rotors and had to take out the anti-vibration shims for the first 10K miles when he changed his pads.

If the one that did slide on felt tight then you should leave it on in that state either.. it may glaze.

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Okay... wait, i understand now... there IS space in between the pads for the rotor, but when mounted the outer face doesn't clear the outer pad, but there's ample room between inner face and pad?

Pull the rotor and clean the hub bore with sandpaper and the same for the hub.

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Another way of fully seating the rotor is to just leave the caliper off and mount the rims, they'll press it back on the rest of the way. I prefer cleaning the bore and hub though as it ensures easier removal the next time. Even with the cleaning you may have to still mount the rim, but I usually don't. HTH

Green7mgte · 01-05-2010, 08:56 PM

ill try it out. off to work atm
Time elapse:24 hours

i took off the parts and began cleaning. I re mounted the rotor and placed my rim on. pushed it back as far as it would go removed my rim and secured the rotor with lug nuts.

same problem. I apply the caliper over the brakes and the opposite end of my rotor pops out not allowing clerance of the lower caliper bolt to slide into position. now either im not getting 1mm clerance on the rotor to the hub or I don't know what else. Im seriously at my end with this.

I heard that the later production 92 supras may of had there brakes changed to the newer 93 model. can anyone confirm or deny this. I could be wrong.

I bought a new rotor and still have the same problem of not enough clerance. Im taking my pads back and getting something from NAPA.

01-05-2010, 07:19 PM	#4
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	abs.. raises hand.. i re-assembled everything but i still have a hairs worth of clearance i cant get passed. thats what made me go hammer crazy in the first place.. I do have my rotor bolted into place to avoid slant but still have that fingernail size worth of clearance from my caliper over the brake pad i cant clear. I called AAP and double checked the size of the pads and they said its correct. warped rotor maybe? just a faction of an inch outa whack? __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines : Last edited by Green7mgte; 01-05-2010 at 07:23 PM.

01-05-2010, 07:33 PM	#5
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	have you compressed the caliper's piston back into the housing? Warped rotors aren't straight... they're not suddenly thicker. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

01-05-2010, 07:42 PM	#6
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	everything is compressed. i have allot of clearance on the caliper piston side. just when i go to put the caliper back over the pads the front one is a hair to thick. same problem on the otherside but eventually something slid into postition. I fallowed the same method i did before. wtf changing brakes is level 1 car stuff. Before i started i called a friend of mine and said."hey its ok to change brakes when its snowing out right" and he said "yea you can change brakes in the snow" well i guess not. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

01-05-2010, 07:47 PM	#7
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Are you running aftermarket rotors? A local guy I know is running OEM style Brembo rotors and had to take out the anti-vibration shims for the first 10K miles when he changed his pads. If the one that did slide on felt tight then you should leave it on in that state either.. it may glaze. -------------- Okay... wait, i understand now... there IS space in between the pads for the rotor, but when mounted the outer face doesn't clear the outer pad, but there's ample room between inner face and pad? Pull the rotor and clean the hub bore with sandpaper and the same for the hub. -------------- Another way of fully seating the rotor is to just leave the caliper off and mount the rims, they'll press it back on the rest of the way. I prefer cleaning the bore and hub though as it ensures easier removal the next time. Even with the cleaning you may have to still mount the rim, but I usually don't. HTH __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar ---> Last edited by cre; 01-05-2010 at 08:16 PM.

01-05-2010, 08:56 PM	#8
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	ill try it out. off to work atm Time elapse:24 hours i took off the parts and began cleaning. I re mounted the rotor and placed my rim on. pushed it back as far as it would go removed my rim and secured the rotor with lug nuts. same problem. I apply the caliper over the brakes and the opposite end of my rotor pops out not allowing clerance of the lower caliper bolt to slide into position. now either im not getting 1mm clerance on the rotor to the hub or I don't know what else. Im seriously at my end with this. I heard that the later production 92 supras may of had there brakes changed to the newer 93 model. can anyone confirm or deny this. I could be wrong. I bought a new rotor and still have the same problem of not enough clerance. Im taking my pads back and getting something from NAPA. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines : Last edited by Green7mgte; 01-07-2010 at 06:06 AM.

01-05-2010, 03:48 PM	#1
Bill UK AEM EMS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 891	You guys must have different brake/hub setup to the UK Supra, I’m sure I needed to removed the hub to knock the wheel stud completely through.

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