checking out an 86 mk3 tomorrow

cre · 11-23-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cvbikeguy

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88965

Sweet! Somehow he managed to do it with less work than any I've seen. I didn't see any info regarding the trans tunnel, did he say anywhere else if he had to pound it out or not?

cvbikeguy · 11-25-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

Sweet! Somehow he managed to do it with less work than any I've seen. I didn't see any info regarding the trans tunnel, did he say anywhere else if he had to pound it out or not?

sorry that took so long. his build wasnt very informative but according to some threads i have read its easier to do a swap like that because its right hand drive. bla bla bla bla something about the firewall is different...........

those jerks.

Krem · 11-25-2009, 04:10 PM

I don't think I'd go thru the rebuild myself... now maybe if I were as inclined, mechanically, as some of the other posters I've seen here, I might attempt the rebuild. The downside of that would be I'd still be dealing with a naturally aspired engine on a 4 speed automatic transmission. :\

I think you might not be using the best search queries for what you're lookin for. If you want a replacement or a swap, try "JDM (engine code) swap" IE: "JDM 7mgte swap". If you're more lookin at doin the engine and tranny, as it sounds you are, you probably want to look for front clips. This is essentially everything from the firewall forward (as I had it described to me), sometimes including the front portion of the chassis/body. Can easily find that in a search for "(Engine code) Front Clip". IE: "7mgte Front Clip".

Just a quickie, I've found a couple links, tho I'm not sure of the reputability of the sites.

JDM Front Clips (Looks like the 7m doesn't have a tranny, only the jz's)

JDM Front Clips, Engines and/or Trannies (Website looks better put together)

cvbikeguy · 11-25-2009, 05:48 PM

ohhhh man well due to time constraint and my absolute phobia to get things right........

im gonna go with the rebuild

soooooooooooooo the journey consinues....

got the throttle body off....

no more intake manifold.....

honestly im no genius either when it comes to cars but hey, how hard can it be?.......

lol

Krem · 11-25-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvbikeguy

ohhhh man well due to time constraint and my absolute phobia to get things right........

im gonna go with the rebuild

honestly im no genius either when it comes to cars but hey, how hard can it be?.......

lol

I wish you best of luck cause after the rebuild, you're probably gunna wish the time and money spent were on a swap as the power you probably want still won't really be there. However, on the flip side, once you do achieve the rebuild, it will be a feeling of great accomplishment that I could only be envious of and give you props for trying if nothing more.. hope you get it done tho. As for how hard can it be? Well, I don't think you need an IQ over 145, but you might want to do some homework and review first... some things require precision down to millimeter specs... and just like with planes, a couple millimeters off here, or there, could result in disaster or failure of a lesser degree. Keep postin pix like Oregonjoe did, please... I'd like to see how it's going as well as see what's all involved incase I'm unable to get my hands on a 7mgte swap when my car needs it...

cvbikeguy · 11-25-2009, 07:18 PM

oh man so i remember Oregonjoe saying something about having alot of band-aids ready.... i sould have taken that advice. this engine has sooo many tight bolts that are just frozen over the years and of course i end up slammin my elbow into crap trying to loosen them up.... ouch.

ok but enough complaining. here we are now. just got the bottom part of the manifold off.

bhu - n shit!!! sprinklers just went off on me..... (im on the computer in my front lawn next to the car........

i guess my parents changed the sprinkler times....

anyways so the more and more im working on this i cant help thinking i might keep this car n/a for a while instead of the usual turbo but then ill still do the w58 or r154 swap. like you said Krem, im pretty sure ill feel majorly accomplished after this.

cre · 11-25-2009, 07:32 PM

Unless there's a problem with your W58 I'd wait on the R154 swap and swap it in when you get the GTE. It's a much heavier transmission and generally not as smooth shifting. Spend the money on other components which you'll still be able to use with the GTE though... fuel mods, suspension, etc.

Krem, just because an engine is from Japan and has fewer miles doesn't mean it's not complete garbage. A lot of those engines were beat to hell and/or saw nothing but city miles... they're also still 20 years old. If you get a JDM you still should plan on having to rebuild it.

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11-25-2009, 04:10 PM	#3
Krem 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 167	I don't think I'd go thru the rebuild myself... now maybe if I were as inclined, mechanically, as some of the other posters I've seen here, I might attempt the rebuild. The downside of that would be I'd still be dealing with a naturally aspired engine on a 4 speed automatic transmission. :\ I think you might not be using the best search queries for what you're lookin for. If you want a replacement or a swap, try "JDM (engine code) swap" IE: "JDM 7mgte swap". If you're more lookin at doin the engine and tranny, as it sounds you are, you probably want to look for front clips. This is essentially everything from the firewall forward (as I had it described to me), sometimes including the front portion of the chassis/body. Can easily find that in a search for "(Engine code) Front Clip". IE: "7mgte Front Clip". Just a quickie, I've found a couple links, tho I'm not sure of the reputability of the sites. JDM Front Clips (Looks like the 7m doesn't have a tranny, only the jz's) JDM Front Clips, Engines and/or Trannies (Website looks better put together)

11-25-2009, 05:48 PM	#4
cvbikeguy 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 248	ohhhh man well due to time constraint and my absolute phobia to get things right........ im gonna go with the rebuild soooooooooooooo the journey consinues.... got the throttle body off.... no more intake manifold..... honestly im no genius either when it comes to cars but hey, how hard can it be?....... lol

11-25-2009, 07:18 PM	#6
cvbikeguy 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 248	oh man so i remember Oregonjoe saying something about having alot of band-aids ready.... i sould have taken that advice. this engine has sooo many tight bolts that are just frozen over the years and of course i end up slammin my elbow into crap trying to loosen them up.... ouch. ok but enough complaining. here we are now. just got the bottom part of the manifold off. bhu - n shit!!! sprinklers just went off on me..... (im on the computer in my front lawn next to the car........ i guess my parents changed the sprinkler times.... anyways so the more and more im working on this i cant help thinking i might keep this car n/a for a while instead of the usual turbo but then ill still do the w58 or r154 swap. like you said Krem, im pretty sure ill feel majorly accomplished after this.

11-25-2009, 07:32 PM	#7
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Unless there's a problem with your W58 I'd wait on the R154 swap and swap it in when you get the GTE. It's a much heavier transmission and generally not as smooth shifting. Spend the money on other components which you'll still be able to use with the GTE though... fuel mods, suspension, etc. Krem, just because an engine is from Japan and has fewer miles doesn't mean it's not complete garbage. A lot of those engines were beat to hell and/or saw nothing but city miles... they're also still 20 years old. If you get a JDM you still should plan on having to rebuild it.