checking out an 86 mk3 tomorrow

cvbikeguy · 11-23-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

I should have just said that it won't fit without a decent bit of custom work. Anything can be done; I really just meant to make the point that it's not a direct swap.

EDIT: Actually, going back through my links I can't find any MKIIIs with a V160.... I'm not surprised, the gearbox is about a foot longer than the R154... the shifter will be in the center console's storage bin. Have some links or pics of any that you've seen?

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88965

cvbikeguy · 11-23-2009, 06:50 PM

so im thinking that since i have a few weeks off from work i might as well change the head gasket anyways right? i already have stuff taken apart and i should just go all the way instead of having it blow in a few miles.

cross your fingers

Krem · 11-23-2009, 09:18 PM

Good luck CV... I think that's probably best, and I'm about to do it for nothing more than peace of mind knowing it's been recently done and doesn't have 140k miles on it... As far as what was wrong w/ the car... when i bought it for $1950, couldn't tell anything wrong other than a hatch stopper and slight cosmetics on the vinyl of the interior due to heat stress.. there were no leaks, started right up and performed well as well.

After first oil change, my friend advised me I should get the front tires replaced and get my wheel alignment done. I replaced my tires, but the alignment still needs to be done. I also had to do the brakes within two weeks of purchase as they were worn and cracking.. less than a week after the brakes were done, my distributor shaft snaps and had to get that replaced and have the TDC timing done on her. She gets hot fairly quick, and I'm sure getting my fan shrouds will help with this, but noticed also a few small pinhole sized holes in the top of the radiator, so guessing I need to replace the radiator too. Did try the thermostat and hoses along w/ a coolant flush to see if that would fix the heating issue, but it hasn't. Finally, between the time my distributor shaft had snapped and been repaired, my master cylinder (or the res. above it) has started leaking brake fluid and this is my first priority, followed by coolant. After that, I can focus again at my suspension and alignment... She's sucked up more repair money than I'd care for, but the pride I can have in her, and the fun I can have in her, once she's working good makes it all worth it.

cvbikeguy · 11-23-2009, 09:43 PM

oh man i feel your pain. yea i figured its gonna blow anyways so might as well do it and then since im doing this maybe ill convert it to a turbo? hahaha i wonder how much trouble that would be. well anyways nice to meet you man and good luck

Krem · 11-23-2009, 10:24 PM

bolt ons is something I've always been curious about, but seeing and reading how tempermental our ECU's can be and knowing the 7mge has a different ECU config than a 7mgte, I started to believe it might just be more efficient (both in time and money) to just drop a 7mgte w/ a manual trans than it would be to put a bolt on (if one exists for the 7mge) and have to dick with the ECU and still have an auto trans once said and done.. I know I've got a long way to go in my education on this make, but leaves me feeling just as excited as it does apprehensive. However, this forum has been a valuable resource for knowledge so far... hope that doesn't change any time soon.

cvbikeguy · 11-24-2009, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krem

bolt ons is something I've always been curious about, but seeing and reading how tempermental our ECU's can be and knowing the 7mge has a different ECU config than a 7mgte, I started to believe it might just be more efficient (both in time and money) to just drop a 7mgte w/ a manual trans than it would be to put a bolt on (if one exists for the 7mge) and have to dick with the ECU and still have an auto trans once said and done.. I know I've got a long way to go in my education on this make, but leaves me feeling just as excited as it does apprehensive. However, this forum has been a valuable resource for knowledge so far... hope that doesn't change any time soon.

Yea I'm think after this head gasket is done then I will see how much extra money I have to put in the manual tranny.

cre · 11-23-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvbikeguy

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88965

Sweet! Somehow he managed to do it with less work than any I've seen. I didn't see any info regarding the trans tunnel, did he say anywhere else if he had to pound it out or not?

cvbikeguy · 11-25-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

Sweet! Somehow he managed to do it with less work than any I've seen. I didn't see any info regarding the trans tunnel, did he say anywhere else if he had to pound it out or not?

sorry that took so long. his build wasnt very informative but according to some threads i have read its easier to do a swap like that because its right hand drive. bla bla bla bla something about the firewall is different...........

those jerks.

Krem · 11-25-2009, 04:10 PM

I don't think I'd go thru the rebuild myself... now maybe if I were as inclined, mechanically, as some of the other posters I've seen here, I might attempt the rebuild. The downside of that would be I'd still be dealing with a naturally aspired engine on a 4 speed automatic transmission. :\

I think you might not be using the best search queries for what you're lookin for. If you want a replacement or a swap, try "JDM (engine code) swap" IE: "JDM 7mgte swap". If you're more lookin at doin the engine and tranny, as it sounds you are, you probably want to look for front clips. This is essentially everything from the firewall forward (as I had it described to me), sometimes including the front portion of the chassis/body. Can easily find that in a search for "(Engine code) Front Clip". IE: "7mgte Front Clip".

Just a quickie, I've found a couple links, tho I'm not sure of the reputability of the sites.

JDM Front Clips (Looks like the 7m doesn't have a tranny, only the jz's)

JDM Front Clips, Engines and/or Trannies (Website looks better put together)

cvbikeguy · 11-25-2009, 05:48 PM

ohhhh man well due to time constraint and my absolute phobia to get things right........

im gonna go with the rebuild

soooooooooooooo the journey consinues....

got the throttle body off....

no more intake manifold.....

honestly im no genius either when it comes to cars but hey, how hard can it be?.......

lol

11-23-2009, 06:50 PM	#2
cvbikeguy 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 248	after thoughts. so im thinking that since i have a few weeks off from work i might as well change the head gasket anyways right? i already have stuff taken apart and i should just go all the way instead of having it blow in a few miles. cross your fingers

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11-23-2009, 09:18 PM	#3
Krem 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 167	Good luck CV... I think that's probably best, and I'm about to do it for nothing more than peace of mind knowing it's been recently done and doesn't have 140k miles on it... As far as what was wrong w/ the car... when i bought it for $1950, couldn't tell anything wrong other than a hatch stopper and slight cosmetics on the vinyl of the interior due to heat stress.. there were no leaks, started right up and performed well as well. After first oil change, my friend advised me I should get the front tires replaced and get my wheel alignment done. I replaced my tires, but the alignment still needs to be done. I also had to do the brakes within two weeks of purchase as they were worn and cracking.. less than a week after the brakes were done, my distributor shaft snaps and had to get that replaced and have the TDC timing done on her. She gets hot fairly quick, and I'm sure getting my fan shrouds will help with this, but noticed also a few small pinhole sized holes in the top of the radiator, so guessing I need to replace the radiator too. Did try the thermostat and hoses along w/ a coolant flush to see if that would fix the heating issue, but it hasn't. Finally, between the time my distributor shaft had snapped and been repaired, my master cylinder (or the res. above it) has started leaking brake fluid and this is my first priority, followed by coolant. After that, I can focus again at my suspension and alignment... She's sucked up more repair money than I'd care for, but the pride I can have in her, and the fun I can have in her, once she's working good makes it all worth it.

11-23-2009, 09:43 PM	#4
cvbikeguy 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 248	oh man i feel your pain. yea i figured its gonna blow anyways so might as well do it and then since im doing this maybe ill convert it to a turbo? hahaha i wonder how much trouble that would be. well anyways nice to meet you man and good luck

11-23-2009, 10:24 PM	#5
Krem 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 167	bolt ons is something I've always been curious about, but seeing and reading how tempermental our ECU's can be and knowing the 7mge has a different ECU config than a 7mgte, I started to believe it might just be more efficient (both in time and money) to just drop a 7mgte w/ a manual trans than it would be to put a bolt on (if one exists for the 7mge) and have to dick with the ECU and still have an auto trans once said and done.. I know I've got a long way to go in my education on this make, but leaves me feeling just as excited as it does apprehensive. However, this forum has been a valuable resource for knowledge so far... hope that doesn't change any time soon.

11-25-2009, 04:10 PM	#9
Krem 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 167	I don't think I'd go thru the rebuild myself... now maybe if I were as inclined, mechanically, as some of the other posters I've seen here, I might attempt the rebuild. The downside of that would be I'd still be dealing with a naturally aspired engine on a 4 speed automatic transmission. :\ I think you might not be using the best search queries for what you're lookin for. If you want a replacement or a swap, try "JDM (engine code) swap" IE: "JDM 7mgte swap". If you're more lookin at doin the engine and tranny, as it sounds you are, you probably want to look for front clips. This is essentially everything from the firewall forward (as I had it described to me), sometimes including the front portion of the chassis/body. Can easily find that in a search for "(Engine code) Front Clip". IE: "7mgte Front Clip". Just a quickie, I've found a couple links, tho I'm not sure of the reputability of the sites. JDM Front Clips (Looks like the 7m doesn't have a tranny, only the jz's) JDM Front Clips, Engines and/or Trannies (Website looks better put together)

11-25-2009, 05:48 PM	#10
cvbikeguy 3" Exhaust Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 248	ohhhh man well due to time constraint and my absolute phobia to get things right........ im gonna go with the rebuild soooooooooooooo the journey consinues.... got the throttle body off.... no more intake manifold..... honestly im no genius either when it comes to cars but hey, how hard can it be?....... lol