Timing question.

IHateHacks · 04-23-2008, 08:28 PM

I go to work, come home and now you have codes....LOL

Well I guess you found your problems.

As far as your codes, come on, you have a TSRM right? Now show us how good of a mechanic you REALLY are. It shows you WHAT to check when you get those codes. Don't just go throwing parts at it.

I would convert back to the stock air box and paper filter. Seriously.

supramacist · 04-23-2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHateHacks

I go to work, come home and now you have codes....LOL

Well I guess you found your problems.

As far as your codes, come on, you have a TSRM right? Now show us how good of a mechanic you REALLY are. It shows you WHAT to check when you get those codes. Don't just go throwing parts at it.

I would convert back to the stock air box and paper filter. Seriously.

That's my next stop. New dry flow filter and a new reman'd afm.

CRE..., Ya I may have tweaked the idle once while it was running codes.

I'll disconnect the neg terminal and hope that clears it out. The 51 isn't bothering me.

My car had blowby before I did the build and I'm about to change all of that.

I was throwing a code 31 but I'm not now.

And hell you're telling me I work all night to turn it on and find codes.
Dear Lord.

supramacist · 04-24-2008, 05:11 AM

Well...., after removing the AFM.

I at minimum know it had to be done because it was contaminated from my old air filter.

It stank of fuel. The plastic intake pipe didn't smell nearly as strongly as the afm did.

I am taking in more air. I am in the middle of building my own c.a.i., My injectors should be max'd out with the walbro behind them. So the influx of air shouldn't be a bad thing.

I also ported and polished the complete air intake plenums inside and out with a pencil grinder. Now before you go telling me I'm daft. I have prior experience in just this thing with jet air craft engines. So I'm not just thumb dicking around.

I should have the new afm right around noon and the air filter as well.

The battery is un hooked. The jumper wire is in place. I won't fock with the gas peddle this time around and we'll check for codes and try to get it timed and tested by early afternoon tomorrow.

Thanks for reading.

IHateHacks · 04-24-2008, 10:33 AM

Hey, nice avatar!!

I didn't know your car looked so good.

Is your car lowered?

supramacist · 04-24-2008, 02:46 PM

LOL no one knows. I hardly ever post pics of the entire thing.

It's not lowered yet and currently has a cf hood. I took this pic after washing and detailing a few years ago. I don't have any new ones yet. I'm waiting for completion. Thanks for the compliment.

I still can't find a front strut tower bar. Does anyone have any ideas as to where I should look besides HPF and Titan motor sports and the dealership.

EDIT: just for the record. Today when I fill my coolant system. I'm going to try it without the belching and see what's up.

supramacist · 04-24-2008, 06:53 PM

Update.

New afm new air filter which I'll post a pic of later..., cause it's special.
I get it timed. The check engine light is staying on solid. I kill it start it again after a few drags on the stogie. Start it. No check engine light, no codes...., yet. I go out to check the timing and it advanced upon start up and by the time I get back to the check engine light I'm flashing 51.

I go back out and I adjust the idle down as far as I can and it's still running around 12* after tdc.

I unplug the battery, After shutting it off. I'm going to go and try it again and see what happens. It almost has to be the throttle position sensor. I keep asking myself if moving the dizzy forward will enable me to adjust the timing in a fashion to solve the 51?????

But I really don't know. I'm just a gear head with some native talent.
I'm not a mechanic. I'm trying desperately to keep this on a level that doesn't exceed my abilities.

That being said.... Any thoughts? I'll be back after while.
Back to the garage. Thanks for reading.

EDIT: I topped off the coolant this morning. I left the funnel in with some coolant in it and shaked the car a bit and pressed on some hoses and let it sit for a good while. Till it was obvious that it was good. I lifted the funnel enough to get a finger under it. She's max'd, I capped her of at the brim and cleaned up my mess.

The car wasn't jacked up or anything. So I'll leave it till I get this 51 handled.
If she doesn't stop talking smack I may feed her a shoe.

So the afm solved the 24 code. I'm half way there.

cre · 04-24-2008, 07:11 PM

How are you adjusting the idle? You should know better than to try and adjust it manually by now...

And wadda ya mean gotta be the TPS? You Haven't checked that yet? BTW, you shouldn't set the timing without the car at idle. From what I understand, you can do it, but when in diagnostic mode the ECU doesn't set the timing advance to a flat 10?BTDC, it merely stays on the default (RPM based) map with no adjustments per the trim sensor inputs.

Oh, and if you keep getting a code 51 then check the damned IDL switch already! sheesh...

04-23-2008, 08:28 PM	#1
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	I go to work, come home and now you have codes....LOL Well I guess you found your problems. As far as your codes, come on, you have a TSRM right? Now show us how good of a mechanic you REALLY are. It shows you WHAT to check when you get those codes. Don't just go throwing parts at it. I would convert back to the stock air box and paper filter. Seriously. Last edited by IHateHacks; 04-23-2008 at 09:08 PM.

04-24-2008, 02:46 PM	#5
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	LOL no one knows. I hardly ever post pics of the entire thing. It's not lowered yet and currently has a cf hood. I took this pic after washing and detailing a few years ago. I don't have any new ones yet. I'm waiting for completion. Thanks for the compliment. I still can't find a front strut tower bar. Does anyone have any ideas as to where I should look besides HPF and Titan motor sports and the dealership. EDIT: just for the record. Today when I fill my coolant system. I'm going to try it without the belching and see what's up. Last edited by supramacist; 04-24-2008 at 03:04 PM.

04-24-2008, 06:53 PM	#6
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	Update. New afm new air filter which I'll post a pic of later..., cause it's special. I get it timed. The check engine light is staying on solid. I kill it start it again after a few drags on the stogie. Start it. No check engine light, no codes...., yet. I go out to check the timing and it advanced upon start up and by the time I get back to the check engine light I'm flashing 51. I go back out and I adjust the idle down as far as I can and it's still running around 12* after tdc. I unplug the battery, After shutting it off. I'm going to go and try it again and see what happens. It almost has to be the throttle position sensor. I keep asking myself if moving the dizzy forward will enable me to adjust the timing in a fashion to solve the 51????? But I really don't know. I'm just a gear head with some native talent. I'm not a mechanic. I'm trying desperately to keep this on a level that doesn't exceed my abilities. That being said.... Any thoughts? I'll be back after while. Back to the garage. Thanks for reading. EDIT: I topped off the coolant this morning. I left the funnel in with some coolant in it and shaked the car a bit and pressed on some hoses and let it sit for a good while. Till it was obvious that it was good. I lifted the funnel enough to get a finger under it. She's max'd, I capped her of at the brim and cleaned up my mess. The car wasn't jacked up or anything. So I'll leave it till I get this 51 handled. If she doesn't stop talking smack I may feed her a shoe. So the afm solved the 24 code. I'm half way there. Last edited by supramacist; 04-24-2008 at 07:01 PM.

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04-24-2008, 05:11 AM	#3
supramacist 1000whp postwhore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Escape from the Prison Planet Posts: 1,356	Well...., after removing the AFM. I at minimum know it had to be done because it was contaminated from my old air filter. It stank of fuel. The plastic intake pipe didn't smell nearly as strongly as the afm did. I am taking in more air. I am in the middle of building my own c.a.i., My injectors should be max'd out with the walbro behind them. So the influx of air shouldn't be a bad thing. I also ported and polished the complete air intake plenums inside and out with a pencil grinder. Now before you go telling me I'm daft. I have prior experience in just this thing with jet air craft engines. So I'm not just thumb dicking around. I should have the new afm right around noon and the air filter as well. The battery is un hooked. The jumper wire is in place. I won't fock with the gas peddle this time around and we'll check for codes and try to get it timed and tested by early afternoon tomorrow. Thanks for reading.

04-24-2008, 10:33 AM	#4
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	Hey, nice avatar!! I didn't know your car looked so good. Is your car lowered?

04-24-2008, 07:11 PM	#7
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	How are you adjusting the idle? You should know better than to try and adjust it manually by now... And wadda ya mean gotta be the TPS? You Haven't checked that yet? BTW, you shouldn't set the timing without the car at idle. From what I understand, you can do it, but when in diagnostic mode the ECU doesn't set the timing advance to a flat 10?BTDC, it merely stays on the default (RPM based) map with no adjustments per the trim sensor inputs. Oh, and if you keep getting a code 51 then check the damned IDL switch already! sheesh...