i have a question in dire need of answering

tsupra89 · 11-08-2007, 02:28 AM

actually i found out today, the automatic is the same in both models a340e but in the manual versions the non turbod supra is a w58 and it is weak, the one in the turbo is a r156 and it has very different internals so the autos are the same but the manuals arnt

tsupra89 · 11-08-2007, 02:29 AM

bu tthank you for your feedback.

86_sports_1jz · 11-08-2007, 05:31 AM

the manual trannies are different but you can still use a non-turbo tranny w/ a turbo motor and viseversa. the only thing about that is that the w58 doesn't hold power like the r154

tsupra89 · 11-08-2007, 03:50 PM

qyeah weaker internals so i would rather find a turbo tranny. but if anyone needs a good running supra for a g i know where one is, its been wrecked maybe like 3g damage but it runs and you can prolly get it for like 800 if you want to drive to asheville

86SupraMan · 11-09-2007, 03:44 PM

ok, so im sittin here now, wondering whether a Turbo tranny will swap into a non turbo car with no hiccups... anyone care to enlighten me?

supradaddy0803 · 11-09-2007, 06:10 PM

Should be able to swap a turbo tranny into a N/A. If you get the R154 with the bellhousing for the 7MGTE they have the same housing. The only problem you will have is the driveshafts are different. But that is easily fixed if you get a solid driveshaft. I would say yeah go ahead and swap it but if you just wanna W58 I have one you can have just come get it. As for the different lengths on the W58 and the R154 they are the same length I measured because I wanted to know before I put my 1JZ in.

tsupra89 · 11-12-2007, 04:50 PM

hey guys i have the answer to your solution the break down of the transmissions themselves.

and here is the info on the tranny's the gear ratios as well

oowee623 · 11-13-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsupra89

actually i found out today, the automatic is the same in both models a340e but in the manual versions the non turbod supra is a w58 and it is weak, the one in the turbo is a r156 and it has very different internals so the autos are the same but the manuals arnt

the autos on the gte might be a little stronger but i cant confirm that, the w58 is not by any means weak, it can hold up to 400hp, toyota doesnt make weak trannies, and its r154, not r156, that can hold loads of hp, front half of the driveshafts are all different on all models

tsupra89 · 11-13-2007, 06:12 PM

yes i agree the trannys are both built powerful but i would much rathyer have the r154 because of the internals they built the r154 for the turbo and it it stronger then the w58 so i would rather go with the r154

oowee623 · 11-14-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tsupra89

yes i agree the trannys are both built powerful but i would much rathyer have the r154 because of the internals they built the r154 for the turbo and it it stronger then the w58 so i would rather go with the r154

i agree but no need to call the w58 weak

11-08-2007, 05:31 AM	#3
86_sports_1jz Intake Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: OK of US of A Posts: 48	the manual trannies are different but you can still use a non-turbo tranny w/ a turbo motor and viseversa. the only thing about that is that the w58 doesn't hold power like the r154 __________________ GOVERMENT APPROVED HIGH SPEED VEHICLE

11-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#5
86SupraMan 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada Posts: 58	ok, so im sittin here now, wondering whether a Turbo tranny will swap into a non turbo car with no hiccups... anyone care to enlighten me? __________________ 86.5 Toyota Supra ((Current Mods)) : -Slotted/Crossdrilled Rotors -K&N Filtercharger -H4 Projection light Conversion -Magnaflow Catback Exhaust -=Mods to do=- : -Rust Repair -Bodykit -Paintjob -Engine work -Suspension -Wheels -Intake (Semi-Done) -Exhaust

11-09-2007, 06:10 PM	#6
supradaddy0803 12psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: Athens, TX Posts: 308	Should be able to swap a turbo tranny into a N/A. If you get the R154 with the bellhousing for the 7MGTE they have the same housing. The only problem you will have is the driveshafts are different. But that is easily fixed if you get a solid driveshaft. I would say yeah go ahead and swap it but if you just wanna W58 I have one you can have just come get it. As for the different lengths on the W58 and the R154 they are the same length I measured because I wanted to know before I put my 1JZ in. __________________ 1987 supra NA 5 speed 1JZGTE swap Tokico Illumina 2 and Eibach springs Tokico pillow blocks Suspension Techniques front and rear sway bar HKS super dragger cat-back exhaust plus test pipe Greddy Profec B spec 2 boost controller HKS type 1 turbo timer Supra sport solid steel drive shaft Walboro 255 fuel pump JZA70 Front end mod 18" Volk Racing AV3 18x8.5 front 18x9.5 rear

11-13-2007, 06:12 PM	#9
tsupra89 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville Posts: 71	yes i agree the trannys are both built powerful but i would much rathyer have the r154 because of the internals they built the r154 for the turbo and it it stronger then the w58 so i would rather go with the r154 __________________ 89 Supra Boosted 11psi lexus afm k&n air system aeromotive fuel pressure regulator walboro fuel pump stage 3 weitght reduction koki style tail lights silver and black 2 tone paint Enkei rs7 17" 17.5lbs each hankook ventus hr2's 225/45/17 apc hood pins yellow fogs ----------------- Soon To be Megan racing seats, roll bar, either takata or sparco harnesses

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11-08-2007, 02:28 AM	#1
tsupra89 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville Posts: 71	actually i found out today, the automatic is the same in both models a340e but in the manual versions the non turbod supra is a w58 and it is weak, the one in the turbo is a r156 and it has very different internals so the autos are the same but the manuals arnt

11-08-2007, 02:29 AM	#2
tsupra89 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville Posts: 71	bu tthank you for your feedback.

11-08-2007, 03:50 PM	#4
tsupra89 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville Posts: 71	qyeah weaker internals so i would rather find a turbo tranny. but if anyone needs a good running supra for a g i know where one is, its been wrecked maybe like 3g damage but it runs and you can prolly get it for like 800 if you want to drive to asheville

11-12-2007, 04:50 PM	#7
tsupra89 3" Exhaust Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asheville Posts: 71	hey guys i have the answer to your solution the break down of the transmissions themselves. and here is the info on the tranny's the gear ratios as well