Blown Head Gasket repair w/pics

IHateHacks · 01-08-2007, 11:26 PM

Talk about getting the shaft. If anybody wants to know how much a Toyota geniune timing belt and tensioner are:

Timing Belt- $38.37 not bad at all (I get a discount I paid $29.32)

Tensioner spring- $6.51

Tensioner idler sub assembly- $136.28!!!! (with my discount its still $96.00!!!)

Now I know why most people don't replace the tensioner!!!

Ordered my ARP bolts, should have them by the end of the week ($109 shipped).

IHateHacks · 01-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Just got back from the dealer and got screwed out of a cold start injector gasket and 2 copper sealing washers. I wasn't charged for them, but I specifically pointed out that gasket on the computer screen to the parts guy and he STILL manages to F that up. How do these people get jobs? Imagine if they worked in the service department, actually I'm sure they do.

And that new tensioner pulley was worth every penny. I thought my stock one was OK, still spinning good, only making a tiny bit of noise, yeah F that! A new one is like night and day compared to my used one. So anyone who is replacing their timing belt, I suggest you buy a new tensioner.

Here's the parts list as of today:

Cold start injector gasket
2 copper sealing washers
Auxiliary vacuum hose
Heater core inlet and outlet hoses
NGK spark plugs

That's it! Then I get to slap her back together and pray.

Bill UK · 01-09-2007, 08:53 PM

I use a parts catalogue on CD very similar to the repair manual except it has all the Toyota part No`s. If I need a part I just phone through the part number. Before I had the catalogue some years ago I had the head off and needed the water by-pass union/pipe that’s right at the back of the cylinder head, mine had corroded away in places. I gave the description to the Toyota parts manager and in a few days a washer arrived, no metal pipe or nut. Apparently the part I needed requires to be ordered with 3 part No`s.
90401-22004 for the union
90430-22008 (2 off) for the gaskets
90405-17995 for the metal pipe
With the parts catalogue on CD its so much easer to get the right part first time, it also has diagrams showing where ever nut and bolt is located with each part No`s. Not sure if they are available in the US, the link below is for one on ebay UK.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-ELECTRONIC-PARTS-CATALOGUE-EPC-5-CDs_W0QQitemZ250069576904QQihZ015QQcategoryZ36086Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

IHateHacks · 01-09-2007, 09:27 PM

I need that CD!!! Those part #'s are the same for the US. (90430-22008 is the number for the 2 union gaskets I ordered).

Bill UK I have an important question for you. My no.2 timing belt cover (the black plate behind the cam gears) was not shaved along with the head, so the cover sticks out farther than the head surface. Is this a problem? Will it cause the head to sit on an angle? I can post a picture of what I'm talking about if you need me to.

Bill UK · 01-09-2007, 10:04 PM

I know what you are referring to, I` ve done three BHG`s on three separate Supra`s two before any Supra forums where available. All the heads where skimmed ( shaved ) but I did not seem to have a problem, don’t forget the gasket material is quite thick. I've seen this question mentioned before on other forums and it has been recommended to trim some material off the No 2 timing belt cover if the block has been shaved also. If in doubt I would remove the cover ( you will need to remove the cam gears as you know, not a big problem) bolt down the head and then fit the cover.

By the way I'm properly 5 – 7 hours in front of you in the UK so I can answer you questions before you post them in theory.

Bill UK · 01-09-2007, 11:08 PM

A few screen shots of the parts catalogue software, just enter your car VIN number at the beginning and all parts will be related to your engine and chassis #. You can also zoom in and printout. You simply click on the # next to the part on the drawing and then click next, this takes you to a parts list page with the Toyota parts listed just like they do at Toyota except you can take your time to search for the odd nut/washer without someone breathing down your neck. Good Hey!

Bill UK · 01-09-2007, 11:11 PM

Please note the numbers illustrated in the drawings below are not Toyota part # , they are listed on another page after you have select several or one item you click next to enter a parts list page with all the part # and description. Also these are not very clear screen captures the real thing is much clearer.

new supra guy · 05-27-2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHateHacks

Talk about getting the shaft. If anybody wants to know how much a Toyota geniune timing belt and tensioner are:

Timing Belt- $38.37 not bad at all (I get a discount I paid $29.32)

Tensioner spring- $6.51

Tensioner idler sub assembly- $136.28!!!! (with my discount its still $96.00!!!)

Now I know why most people don't replace the tensioner!!!

Ordered my ARP bolts, should have them by the end of the week ($109 shipped).

Should have gone with a gates timing belt kit, it comes with belt, tensioner, cam seals and crank seal. i got mine for likr 70 bucks

IHateHacks · 05-27-2009, 11:58 AM

Advance auto, autozone, napa did not carry the cam belt tensioner 2 years ago.

Now with a higher demand, they made a knock off.

I still wouldn't bolt anything on my 7M from "the zone".

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01-08-2007, 11:26 PM	#1
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	Talk about getting the shaft. If anybody wants to know how much a Toyota geniune timing belt and tensioner are: Timing Belt- $38.37 not bad at all (I get a discount I paid $29.32) Tensioner spring- $6.51 Tensioner idler sub assembly- $136.28!!!! (with my discount its still $96.00!!!) Now I know why most people don't replace the tensioner!!! Ordered my ARP bolts, should have them by the end of the week ($109 shipped).

01-09-2007, 05:02 PM	#2
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	Just got back from the dealer and got screwed out of a cold start injector gasket and 2 copper sealing washers. I wasn't charged for them, but I specifically pointed out that gasket on the computer screen to the parts guy and he STILL manages to F that up. How do these people get jobs? Imagine if they worked in the service department, actually I'm sure they do. And that new tensioner pulley was worth every penny. I thought my stock one was OK, still spinning good, only making a tiny bit of noise, yeah F that! A new one is like night and day compared to my used one. So anyone who is replacing their timing belt, I suggest you buy a new tensioner. Here's the parts list as of today: Cold start injector gasket 2 copper sealing washers Auxiliary vacuum hose Heater core inlet and outlet hoses NGK spark plugs That's it! Then I get to slap her back together and pray.

01-09-2007, 08:53 PM	#3
Bill UK AEM EMS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 891	I use a parts catalogue on CD very similar to the repair manual except it has all the Toyota part No`s. If I need a part I just phone through the part number. Before I had the catalogue some years ago I had the head off and needed the water by-pass union/pipe that’s right at the back of the cylinder head, mine had corroded away in places. I gave the description to the Toyota parts manager and in a few days a washer arrived, no metal pipe or nut. Apparently the part I needed requires to be ordered with 3 part No`s. 90401-22004 for the union 90430-22008 (2 off) for the gaskets 90405-17995 for the metal pipe With the parts catalogue on CD its so much easer to get the right part first time, it also has diagrams showing where ever nut and bolt is located with each part No`s. Not sure if they are available in the US, the link below is for one on ebay UK. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-ELECTRONIC-PARTS-CATALOGUE-EPC-5-CDs_W0QQitemZ250069576904QQihZ015QQcategoryZ36086Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

01-09-2007, 09:27 PM	#4
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	I need that CD!!! Those part #'s are the same for the US. (90430-22008 is the number for the 2 union gaskets I ordered). Bill UK I have an important question for you. My no.2 timing belt cover (the black plate behind the cam gears) was not shaved along with the head, so the cover sticks out farther than the head surface. Is this a problem? Will it cause the head to sit on an angle? I can post a picture of what I'm talking about if you need me to.

01-09-2007, 10:04 PM	#5
Bill UK AEM EMS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 891	I know what you are referring to, I` ve done three BHG`s on three separate Supra`s two before any Supra forums where available. All the heads where skimmed ( shaved ) but I did not seem to have a problem, don’t forget the gasket material is quite thick. I've seen this question mentioned before on other forums and it has been recommended to trim some material off the No 2 timing belt cover if the block has been shaved also. If in doubt I would remove the cover ( you will need to remove the cam gears as you know, not a big problem) bolt down the head and then fit the cover. By the way I'm properly 5 – 7 hours in front of you in the UK so I can answer you questions before you post them in theory.

01-09-2007, 11:08 PM	#6
Bill UK AEM EMS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 891	A few screen shots of the parts catalogue software, just enter your car VIN number at the beginning and all parts will be related to your engine and chassis #. You can also zoom in and printout. You simply click on the # next to the part on the drawing and then click next, this takes you to a parts list page with the Toyota parts listed just like they do at Toyota except you can take your time to search for the odd nut/washer without someone breathing down your neck. Good Hey!

01-09-2007, 11:11 PM	#7
Bill UK AEM EMS Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 891	Please note the numbers illustrated in the drawings below are not Toyota part # , they are listed on another page after you have select several or one item you click next to enter a parts list page with all the part # and description. Also these are not very clear screen captures the real thing is much clearer.

05-27-2009, 11:58 AM	#9
IHateHacks 20psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Haven/Hamden Posts: 793	Advance auto, autozone, napa did not carry the cam belt tensioner 2 years ago. Now with a higher demand, they made a knock off. I still wouldn't bolt anything on my 7M from "the zone".