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Old 12-08-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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still interested myself in the supra build, and cant blame ya for pickin up an eclipse. been seriously lookin at gettin a gsx myself, just for shits n giggles.

i thought the 1g eclipse N/A motor was a 4g37? ive seen a few n/a 4g63's, but in 2g's. idk, shows how far my knowledge on dsm's is.

good luck with the build tho, driven a few GST's and they are hard to keep the tires planted in!
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:44 PM   #2
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haha ya they are, my first DSM was a 92 talon TSI, never should have sold that car! Actually most Eclipse's/talons/lasers for the most part all came with 4G63's in them 89-93 had the 6 bolt flywheel (considered the best engine) and the 94-98 have the 7 bolt flywheels but better ECU's and turbo's for the most part, never heard of a 4G37. lol
If ya do pick up a GSX or something let me know!
But ya I will be finishing the 5MGE build just not for probably a year or so till I can sell my new car off.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:00 PM   #3
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ah nice nice. yea ive got a couple buddies over here with some decent talons and eclipses. problem is the cars are so rare and all these guys snag the good shit b4 i can get to it! haha.

the 4g37 is the 1.8l pos 4 banger they put in em. SOHC, gutless. lol.

ill be lucky if i can find a gsx, even a gst, much less with a 6 bolt in decent condition. freind blue up a 92 talon he had bout 6 mo ago, running full ethanol conversion, gm maf, etc etc...modded fairly high. running 28 psi, but he grenaded the tranny, then fixed it, and went to the track where he then roasted piston #3 after the injector locked up. poof.

that was a solid 10 second car, pretty fun to drive b4 he killed it. now hes got a 91 talon tsi that hes getting back up to reliable status.

anyway, if i find one, ill letcha know!
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:36 PM   #4
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well, just found a 91 talon tsi, 400 bux...guess i should eat my words. lol. need the motor gone through, but its a 6 bolt (skipped teeth, bent valves) and the rest of it is in great shape.

figure i can rebuild the motor for about 6-8 hundo and have a good lil car
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dude if that's the cars in good shape buy it!!!!! thats a bloody steal. I got mine for $770 running and driving from a near by auto wrecker, bent valves and a head but other wise good condition car for $400 TAKE IT!
you find it online I take it? pop me a link?

Ya im not used to hearing the 4g37, but ya the 1.8l is junk.
You see the car to the right of mine in the pic's the 2G talon has a really rare factory bumper I'm going to see if its not broken and if it ain't then that'll be another $190+ in my pocket.
Oh and if you do buy it get the balance shaft eliminator kit for the engine when you rebuild it, it'll stop the timing belt from skipping on you.
here's a link:http://www.dsmparts.com/customer/pro...8&bestseller=Y

I'm jealous of your friends TSI, no one around here sells them once they get them so their very hard to find in my province. I'm stuck with a lowly eclipse gs but hey its a manual, so I cant complain to much.
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well, just found a 91 talon tsi, 400 bux...guess i should eat my words. lol. need the motor gone through, but its a 6 bolt (skipped teeth, bent valves) and the rest of it is in great shape.

figure i can rebuild the motor for about 6-8 hundo and have a good lil car
The bottom end should be fine, just take a quick peek at the pistons and if they have light marks from the valves they're fine to run again (unless the rings are shot of course). Check the head out make sure its not cracked, if not may as well send it away for port& polish. If your lucky you'll just be looking at valves and a head rebuild, in most cases its just valves that need to be replaced. keep me updated man!
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:45 AM   #7
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yea, its in pretty good shape, ill upload some pics here for ya. im thinkin just do the valves and balance shaft elimination, plus a good gates racing belt. if i PnP the head, ill just do it myself. check out my album and youll see the work i did on the 7m head.

im thinkin ill just set it up close to stock. maybe to the gm maf and translator, FMIC, big 16g (or a ball bearing turbo of some kind), bigger injectors, and some differential work. some lowering springs and struts too, w/ some better tires and maybe the big brake upgrade. that all depends on how long i hold onto it.

i just want a good lil car that gets decent mileage, is fun, and can still roll in winter if i dont wanna drive the truck.
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lol I hear ya on the fuel mileage, my old 79 chevy got maybe 12 mpg!

Ya keeping it close to stocks probably your best bet for reliability but sounds like you have a pretty solid plan. You'll be able to keep up with all your friends that's for sure! Still can believe you found a AWD for $400 sooooo jealous! I'd like to pnp the head on the eclipse but I have no clue how to do it or what I'd need.
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yep haha. my dad has a 78 gmc and a 79 f250 and they both get around 10-12. but they do all the work thats for sure. plowing, hauling water, firewood, rock, dirt etc...

for porting and polishing i just smoothed out the short side radius, deshrouded the valves and partitioned the divider between the valves to a narrower edge.

doing that to a minimum on the 7m head netted me about 20cfm more flow on the intake and 15cfm on the exhaust. first time i ever did porting so i was happy.

i just used an electric die grinder and some dremel bits. a better setup would be a good air grinder or 1/4" electric. youll spend more money on the stuff, but itll go alot faster. add in the porting kit from standard abrasives (google standard abrasives) and thatll give you everything you need to do a full porting job.

anyway, i put some pics in my album of it. pretty stoked to pick this car up. im also pickin up a 93 mazda mx-3 with a v6 and 5 speed, 200 bux for that one and it runs great, just needs gaskets, has a steam release into one of the cylinders. i plan on fixing that one and selling it, or putting one of my extra eaton m62's on it for a fun lil hatchback.

im gettin the feeling im going a lil boost nuts...
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