5m-ge future engine mods?

[cre]

Faraday's law and Lenz's law... any generator requires much more power the greater the load placed upon it. There's no escaping it and your friend hasn't discovered a new kind of physics. All car electronics are powered by the alternator unless the alternator is too small (otherwise you'd have a dead battery all the time).... even if that weren't the case, when do you expect the battery to get charged? You can pull the battery on a running car and drive all day (with a CEL on modern cars but it'll still run); You can't pull the alternator and get more than an hour with an awesome battery.

The upside to electric is that the turn completely off when you're cool but then again at highway speeds air blows through with enough force that there really isn't any load on a mechanical fan. Lightweight flex fans are my preference. At high RPM not only does the fan slow but the blades flatten.



EDIT: The thing both sides forget to consider in this whole debate is that an inefficient system can always be improved. An electric fan setup may indeed provide more power in lieu of an inefficient mechanical one and, vice versa, a more efficient mechanical fan may prove much better than an inefficient electric setup. Believe it or not fan technology has changed drastically in just the past 5 years, both mechanical and electric, anything's bound to be an improvement over the 20+ year old setup if implemented well.

[87hilux7mge]

quite true, and i appreciate it.

didnt think he discovered some new way to save gas, improve mileage etc haha.

all i know are the facts, what weve done and what our results are.

[mechrider89]

Well little bit of an update, winters here and all I've basically got done is the hood primed and ready for repainting, and new wiper linkages that have yet to go in. Its 25 below here so my work is done for awhile seeing as I dont have a garage to work in. Hopefully be getting new stainless steel slotted rotors for Christmas just have to go back to the local shop and decide which ones I want. Found out my head gasket or head might be fucked, lots of moister coming out around the head and steam so I'll be looking at a new head gasket at the lest and my hatch is completely toasted rusted right through on the inside in several places so I some how need to afford a new hatch along with a full body paint after I tear her right down, plus hopefully only a head gasket. Another thing is I bought a 92 eclipse just this weekend for a steal from an auto wrecker, I'm a huge DSM fan so I'll be working on it first just needs a couple things and it'll be my DD till I fix my supra then the supra will be the DD and I'll be doing a rebuild on the Eclipse, if I can get all the parts I'll be swapping the 4G63 n/t for a 4G63 turbo set up which will give me (when I'm done) roughly 240whp (will get the head ported and polished, can also get a good aftermarket head gasket with upgraded 450cc injectors and a walbro 190lp) from the 135whp I have now; that's only if I can get a good turbo tranny from a GST model. The reason I'm putting the supra on hold is because the Eclipse is going to be the fastest build right now, I hope you guys aren't to mad. The supra will be worked on just not for awhile sadly. :-( I'll keep popping in from time to time to see whats up and if you guys want to still know how its going then I'll update here as well as on DSMtuners.com. Thanks for all of your guys get advise and wisdom I'll still need it and am always looking for more.

[mechrider89]

The Eclipse I bought

[87hilux7mge]

still interested myself in the supra build, and cant blame ya for pickin up an eclipse. been seriously lookin at gettin a gsx myself, just for shits n giggles.

i thought the 1g eclipse N/A motor was a 4g37? ive seen a few n/a 4g63's, but in 2g's. idk, shows how far my knowledge on dsm's is.

good luck with the build tho, driven a few GST's and they are hard to keep the tires planted in!

[mechrider89]

haha ya they are, my first DSM was a 92 talon TSI, never should have sold that car! Actually most Eclipse's/talons/lasers for the most part all came with 4G63's in them 89-93 had the 6 bolt flywheel (considered the best engine) and the 94-98 have the 7 bolt flywheels but better ECU's and turbo's for the most part, never heard of a 4G37. lol
If ya do pick up a GSX or something let me know!
But ya I will be finishing the 5MGE build just not for probably a year or so till I can sell my new car off.

[87hilux7mge]

ah nice nice. yea ive got a couple buddies over here with some decent talons and eclipses. problem is the cars are so rare and all these guys snag the good shit b4 i can get to it! haha.

the 4g37 is the 1.8l pos 4 banger they put in em. SOHC, gutless. lol.

ill be lucky if i can find a gsx, even a gst, much less with a 6 bolt in decent condition. freind blue up a 92 talon he had bout 6 mo ago, running full ethanol conversion, gm maf, etc etc...modded fairly high. running 28 psi, but he grenaded the tranny, then fixed it, and went to the track where he then roasted piston #3 after the injector locked up. poof.

that was a solid 10 second car, pretty fun to drive b4 he killed it. now hes got a 91 talon tsi that hes getting back up to reliable status.

anyway, if i find one, ill letcha know!