84 transmission swap

CanadianBak'inSupra · 02-10-2010, 05:46 AM

im looking into a 84 celica supra but only problem is i want manual and its auto...
will the tranny from a 7mge work on a 5mge ???

CanadianBak'inSupra · 02-11-2010, 03:39 AM

done some researching and it pretty much seems to be the same tranny as an 84.
so ill probly be looking at a clutch and flywheel??

cre · 02-11-2010, 03:51 AM

Yeah, MKII used the W58. The only thing I think you'll need is a flywheel... and that might not even need changed.

CanadianBak'inSupra · 02-11-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre

Yeah, MKII used the W58. The only thing I think you'll need is a flywheel... and that might not even need changed.

thank you very much!
i asked the same question @ celicasupra forums and got nothing but dick head responses.....
aparently there above answering a question
thank you again...

cre · 02-11-2010, 07:48 PM

I'm surprised to hear you got such a crap reception... that forum's got a good rep from what I've heard.

I generally try to stay away from MKII and MKIV discussions as we have members who are more knowledgeable than I with regards to those cars. I can fix them, but modding them isn't something I've had a great deal of experience with.

CanadianBak'inSupra · 02-12-2010, 01:34 AM

well thank you for confirming for me that the transmission is virtually the same. ive heard it is but i havnt got a positive answer really accept for 1 person on the celica supra forums....
i understand , but thanks for the answer...

85mkll · 03-06-2010, 08:47 AM

ya the 7mgte used the r154 i believe is wat it is the only diferrence is the gear ratio the r154 has a shorter gear ratio than the w58 i believe not 4sure tho. good luck tho.

cre · 03-06-2010, 06:51 PM

There's really not much difference in the gearing between the R154 and the W58, the big difference is in differential.

7M-GE (all years) = 4.30:1
7M-GTE ('87 - '88) = 3.91:1
7M-GTE ('89 - '92) = 3.73:1

85MK2 · 03-07-2010, 04:49 PM

I've never swapped between the auto and manual. Do you know if the ECU will need to be swapped? Good luck! Do you know of any lowering performance suspension kits? Thanks

cre · 03-07-2010, 07:44 PM

The R154 uses a different flywheel, clutch assembly (obviously) and driveshaft...and, obviously the bell housing is different. Make sure you get all the right parts if you're swapping one in... it'd suck to get everything apart and realize your car's going to be sitting in the garage for a week now while you wait for a bell housing.

I don't know about swapping auto for manual in the MKII; If it's anything like the MKIII it's not involved at all on the electrical side, but I'll let someone who knows the specifics cover it.

02-10-2010, 05:46 AM	#1
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	84 transmission swap im looking into a 84 celica supra but only problem is i want manual and its auto... will the tranny from a 7mge work on a 5mge ??? __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

02-11-2010, 03:39 AM	#2
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	done some researching and it pretty much seems to be the same tranny as an 84. so ill probly be looking at a clutch and flywheel?? __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

02-11-2010, 03:51 AM	#3
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Yeah, MKII used the W58. The only thing I think you'll need is a flywheel... and that might not even need changed. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

02-11-2010, 07:48 PM	#5
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	I'm surprised to hear you got such a crap reception... that forum's got a good rep from what I've heard. I generally try to stay away from MKII and MKIV discussions as we have members who are more knowledgeable than I with regards to those cars. I can fix them, but modding them isn't something I've had a great deal of experience with. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

02-12-2010, 01:34 AM	#6
CanadianBak'inSupra Official hall monitor / search nazi - NO SOUP FOR YOU! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 837	well thank you for confirming for me that the transmission is virtually the same. ive heard it is but i havnt got a positive answer really accept for 1 person on the celica supra forums.... i understand , but thanks for the answer... __________________ 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4.10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft.

03-06-2010, 08:47 AM	#7
85mkll Stock Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: atlantic iowa Posts: 11	ya the 7mgte used the r154 i believe is wat it is the only diferrence is the gear ratio the r154 has a shorter gear ratio than the w58 i believe not 4sure tho. good luck tho.

03-06-2010, 06:51 PM	#8
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	There's really not much difference in the gearing between the R154 and the W58, the big difference is in differential. 7M-GE (all years) = 4.30:1 7M-GTE ('87 - '88) = 3.91:1 7M-GTE ('89 - '92) = 3.73:1 __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

03-07-2010, 04:49 PM	#9
85MK2 Stock Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ames, Iowa Posts: 1 Blog Entries: 1	84 transmission swap I've never swapped between the auto and manual. Do you know if the ECU will need to be swapped? Good luck! Do you know of any lowering performance suspension kits? Thanks

03-07-2010, 07:44 PM	#10
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	The R154 uses a different flywheel, clutch assembly (obviously) and driveshaft...and, obviously the bell housing is different. Make sure you get all the right parts if you're swapping one in... it'd suck to get everything apart and realize your car's going to be sitting in the garage for a week now while you wait for a bell housing. I don't know about swapping auto for manual in the MKII; If it's anything like the MKIII it's not involved at all on the electrical side, but I'll let someone who knows the specifics cover it. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

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