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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Long branch, NJ
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I have handled all the above motors(350, ls1, 7m), So i know from experience. The straight 6s blocks are not light. And have you ever taken apart a motor? tell me how much 2 pistons and con rods weigh. 5 or 6 lbs? Just becasue the v8s are bigger doesnt mean they weigh more. It is actually physically smaller and has a lot less parts than the 7m motor. After all, Displacement is empty space. And where do you get v8s dont have enough torque or top speed...It is way cheaper and easier to build a v8 motor and car to handle it than a supra. I stand buy that american cars and motors can not be beat for the price/ease of build. And the supra (mk3 or mk4) is not a light car persay...the mk3s are 3400 or more and the mk4 is 3100. A stock mustang GT(the 5.0 kind) is only 2800 lbs. And the camaro of those same years is only about 3000. I dont know about the viper, but who cares about those. They are just overpriced/rated
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: minnesota
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well right now i am so pissed i just wrote a long ass thing but it got erased. o well here goes it again. I am 22, i own a 70 challenger (440) and a 56 pontiac custom conv with a 350. my dad owns a couple mopars, one 4-spd 69' conv roadrunner that might be 1 on 1 being hes the original owner n its headrest delete.
I dont know you or what you know it sounds like you know a lot about engines, or just have taken apart acouple and assume you do. to your statement yes i have its kind of hard not to when you own classics. Do i build them on a regular basis no. Right now im going to school for autobody. And will be building my own garage full of cars very soon. as stated b4 hopefully a abflug supra :-) I agree with you on the v-8's being cheap and getting good torque. however try fitting tubing on a v-8 for a turbo. its not easy on most newer cars. thats why v-6's are popular. and ANY ricer will tell you a single turbo is better then a tt. from anything i have ever read anything above a v-8 basically needs a tt. Personally i'd rather have a turbo over supercharging and many other people are starting to realize that. If you dont know theres now crank driven superchargers. goto superchargerstore.com and you can see. Thats about as sick hp as you can get on a car and gl on doing anything other then straight aways with it. V-8's do produce good torque i never said they didnt, but if i wanted torque i'd go get a turbo diseal. I was just stating what people should know is that turbos put out the best high end top speeds.a 5.0 mustang is how small ya of course it weighs nothing :-p. But how many 5.0's are out there i know a couple right by me. personally id rather have a 5.0 then that new crap supra. If i was to spend the money i'd get a 33 ford alloway. that supra just looks too much like the newer cars, tell me it doesnt look like the same wheelbase as a g35. I never judge a book by itscover i could be wrong n the day i see it on the road I might change my mind but pictures tell a thousand words. I'll say it once and again. its how much you put into a car(invest) to get what you want. Sooner or later another car will be faster then the other and drag cars are much different then track but with a turbo you at least can drive it to more places then here n there. track cars and drag cars are completely different |
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They sound like some nice cars. I have an 85 monte carlo and an 86 supra atm and hope to own more in the future...lol. I was just arguing my point as to why it would be beneficial to put a v8 in the supra. Nothing personal. And ive actually seen a mk3 supra with a 350, with two garett t3 turbos(the kind from turbo saabs and thunderbirds). It doesnt look easy to fit, but it does. Ill try to find the website. I think it is just way easier to use 2 turbos on a v motor, than plumbing exhaust headers all to one side. Like the grand national. It looks like a PITA to work on. The turbo is right there in front of the motor tho, Like where the alternator would be on a v8. Easy to see and reach.
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Location: Mechanicsville, MD, US of A, 20659
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i have a friend who has a single turbo 5.0 he just built. he was getting it tuned when it blew a hg. i dont know how big it was but the turbo was a good sized one and was located i guess where the air filter would have been(looking in the engine bay from front, lower left). i didnt get to look at the piping cause of all the poeple around it and him trying to start it. any ways it is possible, if i get a chance ill take a pic and post it up.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: USA
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Hello.
Well, if I can get this new Supra in a V8 with a twin turbo design, I might just have to buy one no matter what! Seriously though, if there is no turbo involved, I don't think I am going to buy one...Turbo says it all when it comes to a Toyota Supra. If they are going to bring it back, bring it back in how the Supra owners want it.......with plenty of speed and turbo! Thank you. *Edit* Just found out that it will come in a V8 option but to me, 50,000 dollars is a bit to expensive for the highest performance model. I was hoping for something around 40,000 dollars instead. Also, it's too bad that they won't be having the straight 6 in the V6 models (As far as I know). But, you can't have a straight 8 so it'll be 4 and 4. I still want it to be turbo! At least one...but I want twin turbo! Last edited by Ediseye; 07-28-2006 at 02:43 AM. |
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Its still going to be 450 hp(130 more than the mk4)....ever ride in an NA car with that much power? no spool, no turbo rush....just your head stuck to the seat and a nice gut churning feeling from when you first hit the gas till you let off. A turbo v8 model would be nice tho
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Hello.
Well, that is very nice to hear that it will be 450 hp with a V8 motor. But, I still would like to see some kind of turbo in it; weather it be regular turbo or twin turbo, it doesn't matter to me. I just want some kind of turbo! Anyway, I think if they end up lowering the price of it a little, I might try to pick one up...I can't resist the Supra and I'm so gald that they're bringing it back! Thank you. |
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