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hey,im new to this forum and to the car world..this will be my first modded car.. im about to get a 98 supra or a rx-7 but im leaning towards the supra (hot car) and i want it at least 800 hp..1000 will be GREAT! so..do anyone know the parts i could get to get started on my way to 1000hp?
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well to be honest i don't anything really in modding mk4's...
i would say do the basics first... exhaust filter intercooler boost controller decent blow off valve then upgrade to a single turbo i think fuel pressure regulator aftermarket ecu and well after that i wouldn't have a clue lol try the mk4 guys on supraforums.com and see what ya can find there... i suggest you do a search first then post your question in case you repeat someone elses post... if you repeat posts the search police will be on you hehe let me know how ya got on and what info they gave ya :) good luck |
if you are looking for 1000hp thats seriously a hell of a lot but just take a look at some of the other supras modified and talk to some import dealers in your area if you want to do it the quick way..........2JZ-GTTE......twin T78 turbos shall do the job :-)
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even if you drop a single T88 in there im not sure that will bring it to the 1000 or not but it shall do a pretty good job if it doesnt you have to make sure you do more than mod the engine though :-)
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HAHAH 1000hp...T88 WOW u need like 7.1comp pistonz and if u want that u need to resleeve your engine make sure u get good head gaskits. and if u have a manual tranny ur ganna need a tranny that can handl 1000hp.......... :( man ur ganna need to do some MAD engine work befor u can get 1000hp....$$$$$$$$$ :o
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hummmm,yeah..i knew about the money thing..it'll take a few years or so to get it up to 1000hp..less i was a rich bastard..but then again if i was a rich bastard i'd get a saleen s7 or a lamborghini :lol: but thanks for the other forum link ya gave me..imma go do a search..(yeah..forum police,not good i did that on a motorcycle forum and they buried my ass in the ground :unsure: ) oh and thanks for the extra info there ..i'll post back on what i find out soon
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kool love to hear how you go and what you do :-)
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If you want to run 1000hp, build the bottom end and the head. There is no reason not to. Sure a healthy stock bottom end will handle the power, but for durability built is best. Also I think 840fT lb's is the breaking point on stock rods.
__________________________________________________ _______________________________________ i agree with sssupra... build both bottom end and the head. PHR makes a head combo thats ported and has all new valve train. since you already have the crower parts though you might want to atleast port the head for better flow(it'll release alot of power) as far as the bottom end goes, the crank should be fine. carillo rods are great,and i guess stock pistons would be ok... but for reliability issues, something like JUN pistons or JE pistons would be a better and overall cheaper route. also you should think about getting the ARP bolt kit for the engine. 1000rwhp is NOT cheap by anymeans. you can go cheap,spend tons fixing,and barely ever run it. or do it right, worry about it alot less, and usually make more power(aftermarket parts are usually lighter that the stock cast ones,which is less rotating mass: faster revs,more reliability) __________________________________________________ _______________________________________ It?s not my intention to get "cheap" power, as I?m sure that it doesn?t exist. The better parts I use, the longer/better the engine will hold. I know that....I had a high hp C5 Corvette. I just don?t wanna change parts or use parts that are not worth it. I would have no problem selling the crower springs, if there is a prooven good reason to use other springs. I just try to find out what I really should change. Lot of people say the stock toyota bearings are good for 1000+ rwhp, so why do others swear on the clevite bearings. __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ remember bottom ends can handle so and so power but things change when you start bumping up the revs stock toyota block can handle 900rwhp with lower revs (sub 8k) but if you start cranking them up to 10k you're going to have lots of problems no matter what kind of power you make; and for 1000rwhp, the turbo you will be running will need that kind of powerband headroom anyway revs can kill almost any motor; no matter how much power it handles Eventually I should take Chris (HPF) offer then, to get the crower stroler kit. I know it can produce 1150 or so hp (rwhp?) on Supras without reving above 8k rpm. Maby that's the way to go for me. __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _ ENGINE: SP73 HO turbo .96 A/R HKS GT manifold HKS GT 60mm wastegate Dual HKS SuperSequential BOVs Blitz FMIC K&N 9" cone filter HKS 264 camshafts Unorthodox cam gears NGK 3330 spark plugs TRD 1.3kg/cm2 radiator cap TRD oil cap Redline Water Wetter Hardpipes.com radiator pipe Custom Carbon Fiber Radiator Panel HKS front pipe Powerhouse 3.5" downpipe HKS SuperDrager IPT Motorsports Carbon Fiber Spark Plug Cover (NON "Bulged Vent" Version) HKS SuperDrager FUEL: PHR fuel system, modified by Sound Performance: Dual fed rail Twin in-tank MKIV pumps (on constant 12v) RC Engineering 860cc injectors Paxton FPR Size -8 lines ELECTRONICS: AEM engine management system GM intake airtemp sensor Kavlico 5 BAR MAP sensor FJO wideband w/ display HKS Twin Power DLI Sony MEX-5DI MP3/CD receiver Clifford alarm system INTERIOR: Defi 52mm boost gauge Defi 52mm EGT gauge FJO wideband display (flush mounted below radio) OEM Toyota Supra 2001 wheel w/ carbon fiber inserts Razo titanium pedal kit Sparco Milano's black/grey carpeted back seat DRIVETRAIN: TRD Twin-Disc Clutch BD Motorsports Short Shift Kit SUSPENSION/BRAKES: Tein HA standard coilover kit TRD front strut bar Cusco rear strut bar TRD F/R sway bars WHEELS/TIRES: Braid Future Interlagos wheels: 18x10, 18x11.5 Bridgestone S02 285/30/18 (f) BF Goodrich G-Force Drag Radial 315/30/18 ® EXTERIOR: Paul Whiffin Front Bumper RMM rear wing cut & rolled rear fender lips limo tinted windows 1998 Supra Turbo Black/Black Targa, 6-Spd, 22K Miles, Highly Modified w/ SP73 HO turbo making 980HP & Much More--Immaculate & One of the nicest Supra Turbo's in the Country!!! Vin No.: JT2DE82A1W1003105 Location: Chicago, IL 1998 Supra Turbo Black/Black, 6-Speed, Targa, 22K Miles, SP 73mm High Output Turbo making 833 Rear Wheel HP (just under 1000 Horsepower at the flywheel __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ you should just put a supercharger on top of the V6 powerhouse the supra provides.. help emphasize the nice 3.5L engine, and then switch the twin turbos out for a single turbo with a .3 A/R. That should be good for around 1000rwhp and if you crank the boost up to race settings it'll be good for 1500rwhp on race gas. It cost about $3000 for all the parts to make it a full race setup. By the way how did you come into so much money to buy a supra and all those $3000 in mods?! The Supra's VG35 can hold a TON of boost stock I was told by a reputable source (God himself. I heard he built these, so who better to ask, right?) In order to reach those horsepower figures you mention he'll probably have to change the heads out for a set of AFR or Victor Jr's. I heard Edelbrock is making a CRAZY set of heads for these cars nowadays. Those heads and a new cam should net him some numbers, maybe even above the 1000 horsepower low boost and 1500 horsepower high boost settings you mentioned above. __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ I have a friend at the local parts store. I'll have him hook you up with the employee discount.I gotta help the guys who make this community so much better. disturbednitehawk: One of the best sources of knowledge for Supras and making big power is xoom83, use AIM to talk to him on that name. As long as you stick to the tried and true Edelbrock/Holley/Moroso combinations you will be making at least 1000HP. Maybe you should look into the AWD setups that the guys with 1000HP have done. That would help to make sure you don't get in the accidents. __________________________________________________ _______________________________________ hey nitehawk, this mod list will get you to 1000+rwhp and then some, it worked for me on my previous car. I'm surprised no one else has given you more direction, as the edelbrock heads are all hype. Vone Pressure Conjuction Kit, (replaces the common BPU upgrade) TB94e Turbocharger 12 trim (3.80 AR) Compressor P Trim (-6.58) Exhaust, be careful since anything above 3.80 is bad for the oil KSH Racing Exhaust Manifold, remember to switch the gasket with the intake manifold gasket, they are the same but most people dont know this, every little bit helps Standard 4.0mm Hexternal Wastegate 10.7 kg/cm2 with Wastegate Spring Outlet Dumped to Atmosphere (mega-loud and will scare any honda from miles away) It will make you run cleaner and the engine last longer KSH, jdm 4' Downpipe (4' long, not 4" diameter, most newbies mess this up. GT28/30 Turbo Heat Shield, dont wanna mess up that nice hood Piper 800mm Exhaust Super Sequential Blow Off Wastegate Valve Electronic Valve Controller, makes it smoother and keeps the cams together better for more power Super Gigaflo Air filter, tested and much much better than Fram stuff at Autozone GTi-R Intercooler Upgrade VDO 60mm Boost Meter, 60mm Peak/Hold EGT Meter ,60mm Peak/Hold Oil Press. Meter Type-0 Turbo Timer, two in case you go twin turbos, thats all I can think of now. With all of these upgrades you can run about 60psi of boost. and keep the EGR system in check. Just be careful about the intake welds, they can be reinforced by a local aluminum guy. Usual stuff. Keep in mind alot of people dont know the stock fuel system is capable of this power level, you just gotta remove the VSV and EGR ecu's to make it possible. Some of the brands are easy to come by, dont let people put you down by getting the harder to find and more expensive JDM parts, they're worth it. Most guys around here have seen my old car in action. It was lovely, no traction until 5th gear, and it never spooled until 6000 rpm, it was lovely. Better than anything I have driven. Damn, reminds me of the time we were rolling together and then an Integra flew by, then we were like, let's go, I think that was a chick. So we zoomed up to her spooling up to only 40psi, and then it's a guy with long hair driving that Integra. Then we were like no way, and like bounced. Good times. __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ yeah those Edelbrock heads are no joke! gotta get those definitely! disturbednitehawk, Make sure you get some high performance spark plug wires.. at least 20mm ones.. just call $uprastore and ask for it make sure its supra specific. Oh.. and for turbo i would go with the biggest T3/T4!!! and crank it up to 50psi.. guarantee 1000 fwhp ! Good Luck! __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Screw the heads. I hooked up this Edelbrock carburator one time and ma rwhpowa curve got all hella smooth and shiznt __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ Man I've been DYING to get a set of those Edelbrock heads! Who's got the best price on those things? I want to bump up the compression a good bit too - THAT will make some serious power! I want some good roller rockers while I've got it opened up, should I goto a higher ratio? $uprastore will hook me up on all that right? BLK, I'm told the hot ticket is those Edelbrock heads mated to an HKS TWO POINT FOUR LITER destroker kit....makes dope-ass power, MUCH more than I'm making now. As soon as I sell this POS 3.4L, I'll be gettin' me one of those. HKS and Edelbrock....bad-ass combo. Reading this thread has really opened my eyes to all the possibilities. Thanks guys. Time for a sig change. well, if you must have the edelbrock heads, you need the SRD intake manifold. Polished is always nice, CARB (street legal) too Also make sure you get the 3mm Apex seals for our rotary and get a standalone ECU like Hondata! that way u can tune you car to 1000fwhp. Just call $uprastore they will be able to help you. Swap in the 20BREW Ceramic Apex Seals (4mm) Bridgeported Block/Intake Turbonetics Y2K turbo (they will tell you specs) Motec ECU HKS fully sequential clutchless tranny Big ass Custom Spearco intercooler (they will tell you specs) Methanol and an ass-load of boost ______________________________________ well this is what i foud out so far..i got the formula for getting a 1000 or hight hp beast out ..now to find a car to start the work on.. |
For that much power you are making... i would get some ultra wide tires. Get the new Nittos that just came out in size 445/100/ZR18 .. I heard great things about them! stick like a glue! Call tirerack and ask about them... they are on sale right now i think.
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sounds good well what i read of it..........i didnt have all day to read so i skim read :-) ill read it all some other time..........anyways is there a price tag that you know of??
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i would say $20-30k thereabouts
would have to be for 1000hp lol |
as soon as i have some time to work on this puter imma get prices for all of or most of the stuff listed..try to at least so i will know a ballpark figure to go by..yeah..i was thinking around 20k
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wow thats like 20-30 times the money i have :-)
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yeah that's more money that i have..but anyting is possible with time..might take me like 3 or 4 years to compleate it but hey..this one dude had shit fuckign car on there..he spent over 300k on the outside alone so u only know what he did on the inside of the car..THE HOTTEST SUPRA I HAVE EVER SEEN.. and i have looked at a lot of them..its painted purple but the color becomes it.,like i said..its the hottest one i have ever called..its called the demon supra ..its kick ass..only thing i dont liek bout it is all the gauges on the passenger side dashbored
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that sounds like its got some nice paint ;)
hmm gauges on the passengers side dash <_< how do you read them efficiently lol i hope at least boost and oil temp is on his side :P when you get prices for your stuff... post it up here.. i'm sure others would love a breakdown on price and at least know what they'll be paying out for that sort of power ;) |
lol that was funny supra girl.. i think every guage that has to do with his boost.nos ..ect is over there..he had someone else do it for him so i dont know..hell ..there are some stupid ass people on that forum so knwoing them..they'd do something like that lmmfao......... oh and the body kit was custom made lol..so they didnt tell me who made it lol..and i'll post prices on as much stuff as i can find lol
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Yeh, soz m8 i think its gonna be hard to get 1000 HP, but keep tryin an tell us how u do
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its possible if you have the money to do it though
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thats a tall goal man a thousand hp in a 340hp engine can take about 50 grand or more, i have a friend that put 80grand in to his car and its at 900hp now but still if you have the money and the time go for it but get the best for you car because you really get what you pay for. and look at product ratings too that helps a lot when getting new stuff
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Go to a website called suprastore.com, they could help you reach that 1000 HP mark.
My personall opinion is that you go to Top Secret Japan and ask them to use their special parts to get the horses you need. They already have a Supra that reaches 1000 HP so they are very skilled with the Supra. Trust me, these Top Secret guys know what the fuck they are doing. Mr. Nagata and his team of mechanics will hook you up if you have the right ammount of money, They have products ranging from Turbos to exhaust to body kits. Just check them out at " topsecretjpn.com " click the english site when you get there unless you can read Japanese. Lataz |
my dream is to defeat the fastest nascar racer in a drag race with my supra. it's also my goal to. cheer me on people
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all i gotta say is good luck running on pump gas!!!!!!!lol
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for 1000 hp your going to need atleast hks GT3037 twin turbo set-up I know the kit is atleast 10k if that is to much try a HKS GT2835 twin turbo kit. intercooler 4 row greddy, twin fuel pumps, 96lb msd injectors, 1100cc, 1200cc. Good head, pistons, connection rods, billet, seals, oil pump, water pump etc. Ecu tuned, 272 cams, exhaust, boost controller. IT WILL run you about 30-35k how you got deep pockets
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Search Powerhouse racing. You won't be disappointed.
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hey dudes, i went to suprastore.com and found the kit for you. the store has hp kits that go up to 1200hp but cost over 30,000 dollars. i do not know if it is fraud or not
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1000 hp
I have read many of the replies to this question. Let me say that I have 2 supras one of which is 700rwh and the other is being built by a race car team in FLa which will break the 1000hp mark. The race teams are running between 1200 and 1300 rwhp. The cars take daily maintenance and much replacement of worn parts. You don't just say you want 1000 rwhp lightly. It takes a COMPLETE reworking of the entire engine. from the long block to the spark plug cover. I will tell you you better have 80K plus to put into the engine as well. Just replacing the short block the injectors and exhaust won't cut it. In my 700whp car i was supprised at how much it took to get a few extra horses once you passed the 500 hp mark. You need a complete package including the injectors all of these items work together to get the max performance. Good luck with your goals even if you don't make it it will be fun trying.
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1000hp (850rwhp through a 6spd) isn't much harder, but you'll need larger fuel injectors (850cc), aftermarket cams (eg. HKS 264s) a bigger turbo (eg. 72mm), and an ignition amplifier (eg HKS DLI). I'd like to stress that there is no need for a 'built' engine at this horsepower level, unless you're talking about 1000rwhp. A bone-stock 2jz-gte block&head will reliably support 800hp and 1000hp as-is. Fwiw, I'd recommend you also include a set of wider-than-oem rims (& wider tires of course) in your shopping list, or all that 800hp+ will do for you is burn up tires. Again, wider is necessary for traction. For diameter either 17", 18" either is okay (you could even go to 19s in the front, but rears should be 18" or less to allow for a taller sidewall (=traction). Specs must be at least 11" wide in the rear, 9.5" wide in the front. Are you looking for a 6spd or auto? |
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These two supras are for sale in japan currently, the blue one is bored up to 3.2 the red one is bored out to 3.1. both are over 1000 bhp
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you should just put a supercharger on top of the V6 powerhouse the supra provides.. help emphasize the nice 3.5L engine, and then switch the twin turbos out for a single turbo with a .3 A/R. That should be good for around 1000rwhp and if you crank the boost up to race settings it'll be good for 1500rwhp on race gas. It cost about $3000 for all the parts to make it a full race setup. By the way how did you come into so much money to buy a supra and all those $3000 in mods?! The Supra's VG35 can hold a TON of boost stock I was told by a reputable source (God himself. I heard he built these, so who better to ask, right?) In order to reach those horsepower figures you mention he'll probably have to change the heads out for a set of AFR or Victor Jr's. I heard Edelbrock is making a CRAZY set of heads for these cars nowadays. Those heads and a new cam should net him some numbers, maybe even above the 1000 horsepower low boost and 1500 horsepower high boost settings you mentioned above. =============================================== None of that makes sense to me. None of that is right. |
I thought they were a straight six or are there different engines in the us spec models?
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Yes, the vg is a v6... Not sure where that came from unless someone swapped one into a Supra... Possible I guess...
Those 2 for sale in Japan are interesting... The red one is o.k. without the spoiler but the blue is just ugly. |
ya, those two supras are so stripped down in the interior. you can tell they are for the track... and strictly racing. if i had a 1000 hp car i would want to drive it downt the road with the pleasures of the capet and things cars should have!good luck getting them to the US, passing the emissions and shipping
i wonder how much theyre going for? |
Haha, didn't any of you notice? He said he's new to the car and Supra world... 800 and especaily 1000 HP Will be way to much for him to handle! Think of it this way. If you had a 1000HP car and your Son or daughter just turned... 16 and had never drivin it, Would you trust them?!
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i heard that ohio is a state that doesnt do emissions if you import a car.
is this true? |
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