the supra didnt even lonch that videos trash.Ant no way a slowmaro cold spank a supra like that :angry: :ph34r: <_< :wacko:

the supra didnt even lonch that videos trash.Ant no way a slowmaro cold spank a supra like that :angry: :ph34r: <_< :wacko: [/b][/quote]
[SIZE=14][COLOR=blue] you want white rice or brown rice :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :blink: :P

the supra didnt even try

supra backed off just after launch for some reason. the launch itself was very even, after that, the supra would have beaten it, comaro was definitly QUICK, but comparing launches, the supra would have held him. would be interesting to know why the supra owner backed off.

wasnt a very good run. something had to have happend to that supra. it would have been a pretty interesting run though.

hahaha, man u know something had to happen, unless a rookie rich brat who cant drive owned that supra, give it to me and ill show u, I havea fucking1987 singlle turbo beat the shit out of a camaro with 150 nos hahahahahahaha so dude no way, something was wrong

man the might as well just step on the brakes the hole time i bet they stuck a 2 month baby in there. A SUPRA CAN MESS UP ANY CAMARO!!

Smart! Im going out to buy a stock 86 non-turbo Supra and kick ass all day!!!!!!! Especially those really slow low 13 second LS1s that get 20 mpg, those are so slow and crappy. Grow up.

haha yah camaros are slow..YUP.thats why that supra knew he was losing right when he got on the line....and dont tell me your cars are hella "cool" cause we buy our "slow" LS1s and STOCK their low 13 second cars, after you do you engine swap, and throw the typical AZN nos in there maybe youll catch an LS1, but nice try silly asians. your cars are not fast

You homos are a riot :P . That Z would have nailed the supras ass to wall and thats why he let out. You see one fast car on the internet and think your car is hot shit because it's just like yours . :rolleyes:

Lets face it, drag racing was started by big american v8s and will always be dominated be americanv8s. So if you drive an import and think it's cool you really need to go fornicate yourself with a hot metal rod because your gay. :lol:

Stock for stock no supra can beat an ls1 camaro period with drivers with equal abilities sorry guys stop racing v6's and telling your friends their z28's or ss's then getting a word around camaros aitn shit when really a camaro is well more worth the money

ive worked on ls1s. they are a good design, but already outdated. besides, your comparing a z28 ss which CANT compare to a supra. they have goobs of torque that just burn tires. i hear the same crap from my father day after day about american cars. i like em to but, they will never be better than a supra. they drop in value, made of cheap materials and still camshaft limits. build a 350 and u will understand where i come from...

Stock for Stock any Ls1 can take any supra EOS...twin turbo bull shit set aside the numbers dont lie....second you guys are in fucking denial if you think there is any chance in hell that supra would have ever caught that camaro FUCKIN OWNED...that fuckin supra new it was over nothing broke you didnt see his brake lights light up ....he let out bc he just realized he picked a bad battle with a fucking mean ass Camaro

LS1s outdated???Where the Fuck have you been?...its one of the best modifying platform v8s ever TURBO an LS1 and find out how many supras hang as a matter of fact its been proven

there is a vid at ls1 tech where a heavily modded supra kills a cobra...MURDERS it and then it runs against a twin turbo TRANS AM LS1 and gets its ass handed to it at 3 different speeds

Yeah those supras are soooo superior :rolleyes:

LS6 CAMAROS WILL NEVER EVER BE BEATEN BY ANY TOYOTA! NEVER THE NEW LS6 trend has begun!

Yep, Camaro are badass, but i am Firebird guy.... but any how good kill by us good thirdgenners HHAHAH! i still like supra's dont get me wrong... fbodies are american badass!!

I'm sure the 5th gen supra will eat it for breakfast, along with many 4th gen, 3rd gen, 2nd gen.

it wont go up against a camaro or firebird. it will more likely be aimed at the corvette. the new engine is an ls7 with 500hp redline at 7100rpm.

i love this quote from the show top gear, from england about the srt-10 viper. "the engine is an 8 litre v10, and it produces around 500hp. give the brits that displacement, and they'd walk past 500hp." the brits produce that power from half the engine capacity and less cylinders. all american car makers do is throw displacement at an engine to solve the fact that they can't really build engines. i mean come on, the viper engine is a 20v twin cam. the levins from japan have that in a 1600! you may say that stock for stock a camaro or whatever will beat a supra, and sure, they probably will, but thats cause the supras are limited in power by an agreement between japanese car manufactures to around 280hp. american motors come from the shop with 3-400+. spend $5000 on a supra and the same on a comaro, and i'm sorry, but the comaro will be left sitting there wondering wtf just happened.

exactly... well any japenese or import car is bult to run with midifications. the american car comes out with enough horsepower to run stock to stock against the imports but its like fallen said, "if u spend 5 grand on a supra and the same on a camaro, im sorry, but the camro will be left sitting there wondering wtf just happened" which is a great statement. now im just wondering. if us low life wannabe tuners know that (no offence) then why doesn't toyota know that? isn't that just mind boggling. i think those dirty americans PAID toyota. why else. unless some dumass on the street, subscribed to so many forums started this beef, then i got nothing else to say but if this was professional's work then how else??

An ls1 with 5 grand in mods will eat your ass. Heads ,cam, full exhaust and a power adder will have you sitting there thinking "man I got beat by a real car, I am really gay for buying an import."

so a supra could never beat a LS1 huh? well gee they don't seem to be that much faster, considering the little statistic i found

1996 chevrolet camaro LS1 v8 350 1/4 mile time 13.46

1993 toyota supra turbo 3.0 inline 6 1/4 mile time 13.6

and they are both stock from production, doesn't seem like you camaro boys are as fast as you like to run your mouths about.

oh wait whats this shazaaaaaam

hey is this a 2001 chevrolet camaro ls1 listed here with a slower 1/4 mile time then a 1993 supra, wow

heres the website incase you guys wanna check it out, this is a list of the fastest production cars

www.car-forums.com/s7/t10875.html :P

First off, 98 was the first year for the ls1. Those times are for the lt1 which is a completely different animal. Bone stock LS1s have gone as fast as 12.9, IN THE SUMMER HEAT. Does this mean that every one of them can run that fast? Of course not, there are a lot of different variables to account for. But I have yet to see one of your mighty supras go that fast off the showroom floor.

Second, your car has to use a power adder to get those numbers and is still slower. :rolleyes:

Take the turbo off that supra and see what happens. Is there any 10 sec naturally aspirated street supras out there like there is the ls1 cars? Or how bout a 10 sec turbo street car? U people are outa ur mine thinking that if u spend the same amount of money on a supra and a ls1 camaro. That a supra will beat a camaro.

lol at the viper only having 500. Its more detuned than any jap car. U ever see a hennessy viper? Getting 700-800 without power adders. What about the 8 sec twin turbo street drivin viper with 1600 horse.

all i have to say is whats already been said, americans can't build engines worth a crap compared to the foreigners (spelling?). I myself use to hate, as i called them rice burners, and loved american cars. Then i owned many, and got tired of them breaking down all the time. Also you have to really ask yourself how pathetic are american engine builders, when they can only get like 320 horse out of a 350 v8, i saw a lotus with a 1.9 liter in it that does 10's. And as far as your well you have to have a turbo to beat us, well you have to have a huge engine to beat us, hows that it works both ways. If you were to give american engine builder, and a japanese, or brit , an engine size and see who can come out with the better engine, would be no question as to who would win. I believe most of this has already been said, but some people are thick headed like i use to be about american junk.

oh i have something else to add. Your first arguement was that a supra could never beat an LS1 camaro. Now that you were proven wrong, now your crying well you need a turbo to do that blah blah blah blah blah, boo freakin who, stick to your original arguement instead of now coming up wtih excuses as to why you were wrong.

hey guys im back for a little bit. nicely put kingdiamond. i think the camaro should have never been in a race or even in the same category as the supra. i think i shoulndn't have said that the camaro is slow. but its slow against the supra and many people obviously agree. some people are stubborn and still disagree. but facts r facts. if u can only pull 300hp with a v8 then i dont think a v8 was good for it.. at all. and plus if u guys come over to the supra forums and talk trash then all supra people should go to the camaroes forum and talk trash... any how ima go and i wont see u guys for a while but my cousin will

uh no, 98s came out with ls1s. and no, they dont go 12.9s in a quater. maybe in the vette, barely.

as for going 10s, go to austin. they have 3 (yes 3) 10 second street supras. yes, a supra can beat an ls1 due to cost of mods. i sell mac, flowmaster, compcams, bbk and a whole bunch of great brands you'd love to get your hands on. the down fall to the camaro/firebird/ta is the torque. you have an excessive amount of it so you NEED slicks (to get 12.9s) and gears. so, pm me if you want YOUR camaro faster than my supra. :D

They have gone 12s several times in a few different magazines. I am not making excuses I am stating a fact that your piece of shit car can barely hang with an american v8 that "can only pull 300 horsepower".

These engines are making more power on motor than your japanese motors with forced induction. This isn't a cruch or an excuse its a simple fact that you for some reason can't understand.

Lets say we took a completely stock LS1 and a completely stock supra and put the same kind of turbo on both of them with no other mods of any kind. Who do you think would honestly win?

If you guys think the LS1 is a joke and has no potential then just wait till the LS7 hits the streets.

The 35th ann. camaro has 385 horse and the z06 has 405 or more from the factory. Thats a joke? How much money would u have to spend just to get to 400 horse with ur turbo 6. Then spend the same amount of money u just spent to get 400 on an ls1. What would hppn? Supra getting beat.

yeah somthimg really wrong with that supra (and its owner :angry: )

what shame he puts me to, my supra runs 9 sec flat id like to go the ca. camra... oh what the hell its crap anyways :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

actually to get 400 horse out of supra is very cheap, i read an article where they were having a comp between a bunch of cars, and they all were modified, and the supra only did an exhaust system, and a new k&n air filter setup i believe it was, i gotta try to find the article again, i'll correct myself if i am wrong, but i know they barely spent anything and made 400 hp

okay stock to stock ls1 vs 2jzgte. supra is down 10hp but gets better gas mileage and doesnt tell everyone where you are or what your doing.
if its stock to stock why would an ls1 have a turbo? besides, ls1s have better than older 350 heads but still dont have the flow characteristics they need for a turbo. barry grant however is coming out with a cure, 3 valve aluminum head.
are you so willing to throw away your precious ls1 away for an ls7 so quickly? ls1 have potential if you know how to use it, same as supra engines.
so, when you grow up and can challenge me face 2 face(seriously) your a waste of time...besides you cant beLIEve everything you read in magazines.

for my car to get 400hp to the wheels-
car purchase 3000$
upgraded turbo assy 1100$
head gasket 150$
clutch 400$ <--- already done...thank god!
intercooler kit 700$
secret goodie bag 300$

total 5600$

how much for an ls1 330 hp t/a, firebird, camaro 16k. i should know, i was going to get an 02 z28 ss. wonderful car. b@st@rd insurance companies. theres a big price difference.

He still doesn't understand that if you put a toyota made v8 350 against a chevy made v8 350, toyota would get more out of it.

If you want to see what a supra can really do you should check out some of the vids at visonboy.com

Im by far no V8 fan though the stock ls1 engines in Australia do 380hp, from holden (aka gm). Though power is quickly demolished by weight (around 1700 kgs). Though the new ls2 that just came out has about 400hp, and the weight stays around the same to give an all 5.1 sec 0-60mph in auto :o

and the ls7 is 500hp as i've said in my last post, and in the new corvette thats 4.2sec to 60mph <_<

Toyota does make a v8, the 4.7. And fords 4.6 makes more power than it.

ok, this is one of those arguments that will never end, why don't we just leave it as that both cars do have their strengths and weaknesses in different areas, and leave it as that. otherwise this will just continue into childish bickering, which it's looking like it already is starting to. so how about the v8 boys stop with the insults, and we'll stop with the provoking. sure a bit of harmless poking fun is fine, but things do have their limits.