Supra or Bmw?

[joel w]

plus the supras are just tuff.. very well built and engineered. IMO and they drive so sweet at high speeds and corner like its on a rail..... twin cams w24 valves, it like to rev up..

[SKILMATIC]

Ok I am not a genius by any means but let me try and break it down for you.

First off, yes from the factory the BMW does put down better numbers. But look at what your comparing. You are comparing a modern age technologically advanced vehicle to a 10yr old vehicle with inregards to todays technology is primitive. I mean for example take a look at the new 06 IS350 that car stock with a v6 3.5l(i think) puts out more horse stock then my dads 05 Mustang GT (which is a V8) stock. And thats just 1 years of difference in technology. Imagine what 10years will do.

Second of all, why would you want a $55,000 car with the maintenance bill of a Ferrari when you can have a car where mechanics and parts are virtually plentiful and cheap for the most part? Also you are gauranteed the reliability and strength because its a toyota whereas BMW's when they become 10years old they are nothing but headaches.


Thirdly, lets do a fair comparison. Now in 97 the BMW 5series which still runs for almost 21grand has a 4.4l v8 that puts out about 282hp. Now lets move on to the 97 M3 which puts out 240hp with a I6. You can see with a fair equivelance of cars the Supra basically decimates any BWM that came out that year.

Now lets move onto mods. I can gaurantee you and I can put money on this that with less money that I can make any turboed supra waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than any BMW. Let me just paint a picture for you. With a twin turboed supra all I have to do is install a Bosst controller and bigger injectors and I can put out well over 450hp which will only cost me about 400bucks. With a BMW your lucky you can get one injector for that price. LOL Not to mention even with all the bolt-ons in the world you still would be shy of 450hp.

But I guess its your money and you can spend it on whatever dumb sh!t you want. LOL Just never say we didnt warned you. There is a reason why a decent condition 97 Turboed supra is still at least 35grand. Our bottom ends are virtually indestructable while BMW's start taking poops when you exceed 500hp on the stock bottom end.

Good luck with your Bimmer.

[Greglatta]

How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

[SupraMan1784]

225hp is the answer

[joel w]

sorry my bad, i didnt realize i was in the mk4 section when i posted, but it still applies sorta..

[1988gte]

found this, read torque, and weight. don't they play role in numbers?
http://www.geocities.com/ma71supraturbo/

[RedSupra87]

Ive driven both cars.Im driving my second Supra and my ex-girlfriend had a M3,daddy's little girl til he found out what I was doing to his baby.Anyway,it's obvious about the comparison of the two.The technology plays a big big role in this whole horsepower issue.But dont let the paper stats fool you.Ive seen people outrun cars with more horsepower than them.It depends on the driver and your preference.Id take my Supra over an M3 anyday and im sure most of the people here would too.

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by Greglatta

How much does a 1998 N/A supra put out?

Well the NA version puts out around 220whp.

The twin turboed version puts out around 380(someone correct if I am wrong).

Well im not asking about personal pref but still 1998 m3 puts out 280 and a 1998 supra puts out like 245, so im not seeing why or how you guys can say that you would take a supra over a m3, you guys are saying id rather have my supra anyday, ofcourse you would it has mods, stock to stock what would you want? im not a m3 fan, i love supras but my friend is saying that a supra is faster stock to stock na to na

Nope your wrong. The NA one does but the turboed version creams the BMW all day every day.

Also if you really want to compare them properly you must compare displacemtn to hp output. Meaning whats the ratio of liter to hp? Well the 98 M3 coupe with a 3.2L puts out 240hp whereas the supra with a 2.8L puts out at least 320hp. Gee do the math its a no brainer.

SO THEREFORE THE NUMBERS PROVE THE SUPRA TO BE RIGHT, THE CAR CULTURE PROVES IT TO BE BETTER, THE NUMBERS ON THE TRACK PROVE IT TO BE A BETTER CAR, AND THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS MODIFICATIONS PROVE IT TO BE A BETTER CAR. Hey, if you want to buy a car that will need 700bucks for a simple bolton intake then go for it. Personally I would rather buy a 400dollar boost controller to get about 100hp more.

[SupraMan1784]

nice post skil, i would have to agree, he put a lot of time into that post, and yes the math does show the supra to be a better car, with more power/liter, i like this guy alrdy

[SKILMATIC]

Originally Posted by SupraMan1784

nice post skil, i would have to agree, he put a lot of time into that post, and yes the math does show the supra to be a better car, with more power/liter, i like this guy alrdy

I appreciate that. I am no genius by no means but the facts are in the simple mathematics. If people cant understand that then its no use explaining to them simple common sensed things in a diatribe.

Lastly, ask yourself this question. How many BMW M3's have been able to accomplish 8sec quater mile times vs. how many supras have accomplished that? Thats also a no brainer too. If people cant understand these things then its pointless.