EL DRIFTO!!! Love it or Hate it...
 

i dont see how an mk3 is a drift car. just my opinion.

Get a 240... The MKIII is a crap car for drifting.... even if you get good with it you could always be even better with something else.

^^^^^ agreed. mk3's seem a bit heavy. depends on what you got already though.. what he wants is doable if he wants to dump the money in. hed just see a better outcome from a 240 and itd be easier to drive in a drift scenario.

that and lsd..

you know i dont get why everyone talks about mk3 supras sucking for drifting ... i Daily drift mine and ive had no problems ... i mean sure a 240sx is easier to drift but why not be unique and drift something very few people can ... mk3 works for drifting just keep control and dont over gas it because of the heavy rear end will want to keep its momentum and swing out :) ...and im currently building a 7m-ge from the block up and alls im shooting for is 300-320 hp since you really dont need much more than 250hp to break traction easily ( i mean i can already break traction no matter if the pavement is dry or wet with my lightly modded 7m-ge)

also side note my 1993 integra ls was able to break traction whenever and keep spinning all the way through 2nd and that only had 130ish hp just goes to show you dont need 400 hp

Is drifting the only thing you do with your Supras? Why can't you destroy American Brand cars doing your "sport" Other than on the track what are you going to do with tons of horsepower, like the new Corvette that does over 200. You can not drive 200 on any public road for long. Then what if you wreck at 200?

So the only reason you have for your cars is the adolescent thrill? This whole thing sounds childish and do not understand your thinking at all. What about a drive on a nice Sunday, driving for fun without being a hazard to the general public?

Well thats why when u live out in the stuck like me ur not a hazerd to anyone because u rarely see any cars ...i dont think anyone goes to like aeattle and drift city streets


And sunday drives are.for my civic lol XD


You just dot understand my thinking :,(

Can you write that in English? I do not have a clue to what your message means.

Sorry I was out drifting when I typed that messge on my phone

And the sticks ( mispelled as stuck in last messge)= far out into the country

And your a bully -.-

Lots of grammar nazis here... I'm probably the worst.

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I don't think of it as bullying though, we get a lot of kids (and adults) through here who just "can't be bothered" to communicate clearly and it gets old. The way I see it is that if you're going to ask someone to take their time to answer your questions or help you fix something then you could show, at a minimum, enough courtesy to ensure that what you have to say is as easy to read and understand as possible. If someone can't be bothered to take 1/100 of a second to figure out whether they need to write "they're", "there" or "their" then my time is definitely far too precious to assist them with anything else; If they can't master capitalization and the basic use of periods and commas then my time may be better spent elsewhere as they're not ever going to manage the operation of something as complex as a multimeter or a torque wrench. In short, I shouldn't have to spend more of MY time deciphering or puzzling over someone's request for help because THEIR time is too valuable to bother with basic linguistic skills. Typing on the phone is no excuse... If you can't proofread, use the phone's spell check or manage to use the phone's backspace button to correct a typo then wait until you have a computer accessible. Now if you're just chatting, well, it may offend some but you still don't get to be upset when they ask for clarification (with or without attitude) or you find they've got their fingers in their ears.

However, we have a lot of people come through from all over the world so I try to work with the assumption that any given person may not be a native English speaker. Typically these members are easier to spot as they still make an attempt to use proper capitalization and punctuation.

I so eagerly await the Google English to English translator. :bigthumb:

I'm not really directing this at any single person... It's something which always ticks me off; But actually, it's been a while since we've had someone who was so bad that I flat out ignored them. I'm just venting.
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Now, as for drifting... I hope it's flat and with no trees and that you're either VERY good or you end up totaling your car VERY soon (without injury, of course). I live in Colorado (mountains) and I've known about a dozen people who've gone off small cliffs, hit other people head-on on 'low traffic roads', general ditch-diving and rolled cars. The most upsetting part is that I helped them work on half of those cars and tuned 3 of those. Needless to say I no longer volunteer my time to help out the teens and 20 somethings in my area... Sooner of later I'm going to end up looking down the barrel of a gun which I just serviced.

I can't claim to have always been free of fault... Even on a straight highway where your side is clear, a blowout at a 'buck fifty' can easily put you over a 3' median and on top of a car going the other way. But I've personally known more kids who've been in severe accidents ever since drifting became the rage. IMO, drifting takes some VERY valuable driving skills and applies them in some of the worst ways and in even worse locations. When I was as old as about half of the members on this site I only knew three people (all under 25) who had been in really bad accidents... One kid hit a light pole while testing his quarter mile times on an open road and two others were roll-overs, both in trucks (I was one of those, and no, I wasn't screwing around). All of this in a period under 10 years... The local kids have managed to do four times as much damage in about 3 years.
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Now given that this thread has been THOROUGHLY derailed, I'm going to move the unrelated posts to a new thread in the Off Topic forum; You may continue the discussion there.

Actually thought your message was a joke due to all of the misspellings and slang. I do not understand all of the words. Anyhow you wrote stuck and not sticks which is a word I understand. Yes out away from the city and the police you can race to your hearts content.

Anyhow I use my Civic as my daily for 2 reasons and one is gas. The second is my friend I car pool with hates my Supra :p Anyhow have fun and be careful :)

i used to drift my supra. but i also ended up crashing it.
go fast. clutch kick second around 4krpms you might have some fun... mkIIs are better for it if you strip interior they weigh alot less.

lol just thought of this, buddy of mine has a 1977 monte carlo she drifts mad....

drifting is fun but auto cross is where its at:bigthumb:. dont get me wrong drifting in a nice empty parking lot whith no obsticles is fun but its to dangerouse for my taste, and it really does a number on your car. im only 18 but i love road raceing and auto x becuase its a lot safer and more fun imo, the worst that can happen is you hit a cone or two.

the rare times i drifted my mk3 at auto x it was pretty easy, but i more power slide to get a angle rather than full out drift... would like to give drifting a try ( but not in my car)

sports cars are meant to be exactly that.....sports cars, Whether its drifting dragging, auto-x or circuit. Its what they were made to do, so enjoy your cars!!!
the reason people stick to 240sx's, sivlia's, beamer's etc is because they can take a beating and keep going. The reason crappy american cars aren't usually used is because of just that......their crap, not all but most and they just don't last!!! (went through 3 when I was a meat head guy)
plus a lot of pro americana people are just arrogant dicks so why not show them what real cars looks like?.....I hate being called a ricer as much as the next guy just because I drive Japanese awesomeness.
As newtosupra said you don't need a trillion hp to have fun like americana people tend to think with their big heavy v8's.

my .02, whether you agree or not what I said is true.

keep drifting ppl and flame those domestics!

My friends and I just set up pylons for drifting to, just as safe as auto-x if your not being dumb. keep it to a parking lot till you get good then take it to the track or an unused road like I do.

no doubt in my mind that our jap machines pretty much whoop american cars. dont get me wrong i love american cars as much as the next guy but i belive japan has the better car. i belive just untill recently american was an inferior desihn but they are getting alot better, i really just wish we could have a 80's and 90's japanes revolution again thoes where golden years, i love our import's but seriously what has come out of japan recently that is amazing( besides the toyota ft and the brz, lexus lfa and new skyline and 370z) i belive our companys are financaly stronger but we have lost some of our appeal, we really need to get back to our roots; a new supra( hope to god they dont butcher any of these) 300zx ext...

imo we are giving american musle to much breathing room, we need to make them nervous again:bigthumb:, if a new supra came out that was not butcherd to hell i would more than likely put a down payment onto it but dont see that happening any time soon:frown:

drifting on the roads at night is where its at.

that sounds like fun but wouldent risk my supra, my life and a possible lawsuiet. i have drifted a parking lot at night jst after it rained that was fun but i just wouldent be able to bring myself to drift the streets

Might be no problem in Canada, will get you jail time in Oklahoma. They are real anal about the rules, got pulled over for doing 79 in the 75.

LOL about 2 years ago now i got pulled over for doing 150km/h in a 60km/h zone....
i drove away with a no N ticket.

Would get arrested here in Oklahoma.

Totally agree with you. Even before the 80's the Japanese were putting soul into their cars (prime example is the skylines), and now they've seem to have lost that edge.....well until the Fr's/BRZ/GT86 came out. If they do remake the supra (which I'm sure will happen) I REALLY hope they don't kill it like Nissan did to the skyline and well the z models; which lost it after the 300zx.
I honestly don't hate american cars, yes they do suck but they occasionally make a good one. I just hate the arrogant drivers who don't know what a good car is (A.K.A pro Americana ppl), those people are the only people that ever piss me off. Screw the v8 this v8 that bull shit as me and my friends say "god invented turbos to give v8's a chance". people are so twisted with the "if it isn't putting out over 350hp the car sucks" bs. The fr's is a damn fine example of that, it wont win in a straight line but on track it's going to dominate.

WHAT?!?! dude that's insane, I'd have been booked for sure....you got very lucky!

Please do not use the term "Jap" as it is racist and rude.

thats so true, not all drivers are so arrogant about there american cars but a vast mojarity that i have met are d bags about it. i dont know why every one wants a v-8 in everything, look at the lexus lfa its a 4.4 liter v10 this is smooth as silk, revs on and on and is making more power and torque than the biggest vet motor( excluding the zL1 since thats charged). i like american cars iv riden and driven a bit of them but there not sooo special to say its the best around. you got to apprichiate a car for what it is and not where it was made, look at Akio Toyoda he is the ceo of toyota but he has admited many times that toyota isent his only favoret car( thats apprichiating cars for what they are) he would buy many of his competidors cars just becuase he likes them, why cant we all do that?

I know I do that! I'm a huge Mitsubishi and Nissan fan but I still love my toyota's and of course bmw's. But ya with the americana people their so one minded (not all but most), you give them respect and in return they give you non back. You can prove a lot of stuff they say/think is totally wrong/miss leading and they'll still be a d-bag about it and talk up their cars like there the best in the world. A couple days ago I drove a all original 65' Pontiac Parisienne convertible and loved it, it wasn't fast but it was a sweet car. Got talking with the owner (had it since new) etc and told time about my cars and plans.....he told me my cars were crap and I should get a muscle car.:umno:
No matter how many video's are put on youtube about this topic you cant educate the stupid/unwilling!

and we're way off topic! lol :att:

I belive the a true car guy or gal loves every car weather its a big block v8, small displacment high revvin 4 banger, or a smooth straight 6.you cant fix stupid and you certinly cant fix arrogance, i get love for a brand, i love every toyota i have ever owned for many resons but im not smug about it and am open to seeing others cars ups and downs( some more than other)

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Yes, I will agree with you guys about your take on american ideology. They simply think that they the shit, without any evidence at all to support such an idea. At best they are moderately good at what they do, but they still try to brainwash people into thinking they are the best.

example: I used to have a camaro, and it had a v-8. my 85 supra puts out more power than that chevy v- 8 did. my supra about 176hp the camaro about 157. Jeremy Clarkston said: "I don't know how those Americans figured out to get so little power out of such a big engine." or something close to it.

I mean. American Ideas are dieing on their own weight. I would stay away from America's backward thinking. If it wasn't for British television being imported to the united states, I don't know what I would do.

American cars don't suck???
 

Ok, I don't understand how you can say that American cars anything but crap. They are made mostly in mexico, some are made in Canada, but not many. Hardly any of them are made in the United States. I don't know a good American car that isn't a Corvette or a Rousche Mustang. Even then those are gas hogs.

My biggest complaint about an american car, besides the poor fuel mileage and the poor reliability and the horrid craftsman ship, is the fact that they are boring, soulless, uncreative, and uninspired pieces of hardware that are not meant for people that care about what they drive. They are cars made by old men, for old people.

You Canadians are much too nice.

i dont belive that american cars are crap quality its just there idiea's. look at a zo6 vett they dont really break that often. besides the vett, and svt cobras, and the viper not much has come out of detroit or michigan that really does it for me. yes there general line up is boring at best but they are trying i just dont belive hard enough. the new mustang that is coming out finaly got rid of that POS live rear axel, this shows there trying to get better there just not doin a good job of it:dunno:. They have the teck to make great cars they just dont apply it becuase of pride( there stuck in an old way of thinking) even harley davidson is moving to modern tecknolodgy junking that old push rod air cooled for a modern dohc liquid cooled, if an american company as dedicated as harley is moven on, the auto industry should too

Not true my firechicken and camero were both crap cars. The pontiac went through a battery and alternator religiously every 2 years. By the time I sold it most of the electrical things were broken and not to be found. The parts on junkyard cars were broken as well. Government Moters and Chrysler make sodai gomi (large garbage that you have to pay to get rid) of cars. I may buy a ford but the other two never again! Problem with the Ford's is they are just now using technology my 86.5 Supra has they are behind the times. One GM mechanic told me "if it is not broken do not fix it".

my only experience whith american cars is vetts and some mustangs, iv never had pontiac or a camero so i cant really coment on what i dont know, american cars arent to bad there just not any where near the level that europian and japanes cars are. i just think they need to catch up on the power,teck, and reliability deparment. i had a ford excurson ( the giant ass suv a 2010 and it only had 20kmiles. it would squeek in the rear over bumps and the ford teck told me " nuttins broken its just a ford"

Not all American cars are bad. I can think of one that makes my jaw drop. The Tesla Roadster.

there are lots of GREAT American cars and trucks. its just all personal preference.
LOL somewhere out there is a redneck who thinks that well crafted sleek, beautiful cars are for fags...:dunno:
you just cant please everyone.

really? my favoret american cars are the ford gt, panoz(there general line up), vetts and a svt cobra( has to be the svt not the crapy base) but thats all the i like out of detroit or michigan

so very true

if i had to pick a domestic i would go for chev. they make a hell of a v8 plus i like there old 70/80 silverados. there good looking trucks.

imo i like the vetts( grand sport or better not the base) and who doesent like the ford gt, the car that beat ferrari and could probably do it again

I do not like the ford GT, it beaks a whole bunch. (all kinds of electrical problems) I am not convinced Detroit has the talent it used to. You really have to go to specialty markets to get a good American car anymore. Such as Tesla, Panoz and Cadillac.

However, has there ever been a good american peoples car?