N/A or Turbo?

pwpanas · 05-07-2007, 05:08 AM

Also could be the tires. Slicks vs. street tires wins every time.

With a 2-step rev limiter, and/or anti-lag setup (which comes standard with the standalone ecu that most 1000hp+ Mkiv Supras are running) there should be no significant off-the-line difference between an n/a viper and an Mkiv Turbo.

Are you 100% sure that 'race' was legit? Do you have a vid you can post? Was it a full 1/4 mile race?

Btw, what's your friend's name? Are pics of his Supra posted online anywhere? It sounds awesome...

JPDsupra · 05-13-2007, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pwpanas

Also could be the tires. Slicks vs. street tires wins every time.

With a 2-step rev limiter, and/or anti-lag setup (which comes standard with the standalone ecu that most 1000hp+ Mkiv Supras are running) there should be no significant off-the-line difference between an n/a viper and an Mkiv Turbo.

Are you 100% sure that 'race' was legit? Do you have a vid you can post? Was it a full 1/4 mile race?

Btw, what's your friend's name? Are pics of his Supra posted online anywhere? It sounds awesome...

Both had slicks and the race was legit. I didnt bring a camcorder with me czuse my freind told me we were goin somewhere and i didnt mind to bring a camcorder. It was a full 1/4 mile race and my friend was catching up at the end but it was too late

pwpanas · 05-14-2007, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JPDsupra

Both had slicks and the race was legit. I didnt bring a camcorder with me czuse my freind told me we were goin somewhere and i didnt mind to bring a camcorder. It was a full 1/4 mile race and my friend was catching up at the end but it was too late

Is the 1000hp Supra TT auto or 6spd? How about the Viper?

JPDsupra · 05-16-2007, 08:22 PM

The supra was manual and so was the viper

pwpanas · 05-17-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JPDsupra

The supra was manual and so was the viper

Do you know if it was "1000hp" or 1000rwhp? Either way, the result shouldn't have happend as it did. Either that Supra wasn't set up well/optimally for drag racing (i.e. one or more of the following: suspension, tuning, 2-step rev limiter, nos, tire pressure, etc.) ... or the Supra driver isn't worth his/her salt. *shrug* When it comes to race day you're either 100%+++ ready or you've already lost. On paper, the Supra should have won, but that's why there are real-life races, with real cars and real human beings driving - because paper doesn't tell the whole story. Fwiw, I hope they get a rematch someday...and that the vid gets posted so we can all enjoy it!

IHateHacks · 05-17-2007, 02:06 AM

What about weight? You can have 1000hp in a freaking 50 ton tank, you aint gonna go too fast.

I haven't researched it but I'd put my money on the viper weighing alot less than a mk4 supra, but hey I may be wrong. And unless you have dyno sheets to prove this said Mk4 has 1000hp and this said viper has 700hp then you really don't know who has the power advantage.

pwpanas · 05-17-2007, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IHateHacks

What about weight? You can have 1000hp in a freaking 50 ton tank, you aint gonna go too fast...

True, but tanks were never mentioned in this thread...till now.

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Originally Posted by IHateHacks

I haven't researched it...

Clearly.

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Originally Posted by IHateHacks

...but I'd put my money on the viper weighing alot less than a mk4 supra, but hey I may be wrong...

Yep, and you'd loose your $ too:

MK4 Supra: "Curb Weights (lbs.) ... 6M 3415"
Viper SRT-10 Coupe (for example): "Curb Weight MT 3410"

I sure wouldn't call the difference of a couple of extra cheeseburgers over lunchtime "a lot less".

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Originally Posted by IHateHacks

...And unless you have dyno sheets to prove this said Mk4 has 1000hp and this said viper has 700hp then you really don't know who has the power advantage.

Of course that's true, but the person that started the thread claimed to know the true horsepower levels of these two vehicles. Sure we could say he's an idiot or a liar or gullible or all three, but this is a car list. The discussion only gets interesting if we take his facts at face value, and discuss the situation from there...

Btw, 'I hate hacks' too, especially hacks that post opinions without researching them...

j/k lol

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