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Old 08-10-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Thanks again!

What is the max boost that the stock Euro spec turbos can handle? Trying to figure out boost vs fuel octane. In sweden we have 95 and 98 octane, unfortunaly the car haven't been driven here, only 5 miles if the seller is correct. Not sure what fuel octane England are using.
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Thanks again!

What is the max boost that the stock Euro spec turbos can handle? Trying to figure out boost vs fuel octane. In sweden we have 95 and 98 octane, unfortunaly the car haven't been driven here, only 5 miles if the seller is correct. Not sure what fuel octane England are using.
No idea. However:
1) Motor octane is MUCH more important than research octane. You have to find out how the octane of your local "98 octane" fuel is measured, and it's *motor* octane number.
2) With a US-spec Mkiv Supra Turbo, the max safe boost with local 93 octane fuel (calculated at ((R+M)/2)) is about 16psi. Anything more than that gradually destroys the engine (not the turbos).
3) With the US-spec Mkiv Supra Turbo, the oem boost level is about 11.5psi. This of course is very safe with the recommended 93 octane 'premium' fuel.
4) The turbos won't die quickly unless you're running in excess of 28psi. HOWEVER at anything over the stock boost levels, their longevity will be impacted. The more you push them past the oem boost levels, the quicker they'll fail.
5) Again, (I can't stress this enough) the engine is what gets damaged FAST with high boost on pump gas - not the turbos. If you're going to run high boost, use race fuel or methanol injection.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:33 PM   #3
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Yes, thanks!

Like you said the hard thing is to know how hard the engine have been pushed, put that's the think with every car. I want to have a good base to start with like a LHD Targa 6 speed TT 1998 which I belive is the best base, of course less miles would be better but that also cost and I will upgrade parts after they break. If the motor is bad I saw Suprastore selling OEM motors with auto trans for 3k shipped. So the motor is cheper than the 6 speed trans, and to convert a auto to manual is going to cost more.

I heard that Canadian cars have KM/h like we have here in sweden, how can I se on a Supra if it is from Canada or US?

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Yes, thanks!

Like you said the hard thing is to know how hard the engine have been pushed, put that's the think with every car. I want to have a good base to start with like a LHD Targa 6 speed TT 1998 which I belive is the best base, of course less miles would be better but that also cost and I will upgrade parts after they break. If the motor is bad I saw Suprastore selling OEM motors with auto trans for 3k shipped. So the motor is cheper than the 6 speed trans, and to convert a auto to manual is going to cost more.

I heard that Canadian cars have KM/h like we have here in sweden, how can I se on a Supra if it is from Canada or US?

Best Regards Fredrik
You can probably determine this from the VIN# (vehicle identification number). Share this number with Toyota and most likely they can help you track down the original selling point. Here's some more information on VINs:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/read_vin/index.html
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/read_vin/supravin.html
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:59 PM   #5
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Thanks again! Still waiting for the VIN from him. If a stock supra got 160 000 Miles on it, how bad is that? I dont know how good or bad the car have been serviced or driven...

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Thanks again! Still waiting for the VIN from him. If a stock supra got 160 000 Miles on it, how bad is that? I dont know how good or bad the car have been serviced or driven...

/Fredrik
Service/maintence records are critical. If it's been driven hard, 160K miles will likely mean some significant maintence. Things like the oem coils and the oem harmonic dampener will likely need replacing, along with the standard items shown in the owner's manual (eg. timing belt). The turbos likely won't be able to push 24psi or more like brand-new oem twins will (with the appropriate octane of race fuel, of course). Again, be sure to do compression/leakdown tests to measure the health of the engine itself.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:40 AM   #7
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Okey thanks, motor seems to be almost the cheapest part. Being a beginner when it comes to supras. What about the transmission (6 speed), rear end, suspension and stuff like that? How will they take 160 000 miles. I know it depends on maintence and how hard the car have been driven. I have nothing against to get my hands dirty and do job on the car that's no problem at all, just fun, it's the costs that scares me. Of course a more expensive car will have less miles but it dont say that the interior is in top shape so it's hard but I hope I find one very soon. Anxious to start the journey.

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