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Old 05-19-2010, 09:33 PM   #1
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no no we havent fixed it yet
So let me get this straight: Your rear cam sensor is broken in two pieces, and you have no check-engine light??? Are you still running the oem ecu, or have you switched to the AEM?
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:27 PM   #2
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still running the stock ECU man this car has got the bugs or somthin, as of right now the block being bored .20 over the roating assemble is getting balanced (wisco pistons eagle rods AC bearings) so if i see a sensor that even looks like it might be messed up then ill replace it this thing has been broke to long!
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still running the stock ECU man this car has got the bugs or somthin, as of right now the block being bored .20 over the roating assemble is getting balanced (wisco pistons eagle rods AC bearings) so if i see a sensor that even looks like it might be messed up then ill replace it this thing has been broke to long!
I don't know if I'm not getting the complete story here or what, but the approach to finding the problem doesn't make a lot of sense. From your description it seems like the answer to an rpm limit problem was to bore the block and rebuild the bottom end. In truth, even a piston with a very low compression/leakdown won't limit your rpm. What were the compression/leakdown numbers before you all decided to tear down the shortblock? And again, was the ecu showing any codes?

At the very least, I'd ask that you don't tell anyone that we said you should rebuild the engine because of an rpm problem - because we didn't! Thanks in advance...
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Dude I am telling you the whole story. The only reason we pulled the motor because of was wore out but for all we know it still has the rpm limiting problem
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Dude I am telling you the whole story. The only reason we pulled the motor because of was wore out but for all we know it still has the rpm limiting problem
How do you know it was worn out? Was a leakdown test done? Again, was it smoking (whitish-blue) from the exhaust?
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To start with I did a pressure test and found that the head gasket was blown then did a compression test and found that all the cylinders were down. After we pulled the head it was obvious you could see the four marks in the cylinder made from the piston skirt had been walking up and down the cylinder. The machine shop said it had to be bored. Here it is the whole story.
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To start with I did a pressure test and found that the head gasket was blown then did a compression test and found that all the cylinders were down. After we pulled the head it was obvious you could see the four marks in the cylinder made from the piston skirt had been walking up and down the cylinder. The machine shop said it had to be bored. Here it is the whole story.
Ok thanks for the additional info.

Sorry to say I'm still a bit confused though. In post 33 you said it's already running after the rebuild...with no codes, in post 31 you say the cam sensor was broken in two pieces, and in post 35 you say you haven't fixed the cam sensor yet. How could it be running with no codes if you haven't fixed the broken cam sensor yet?

Oh, and the engine damage you describe is only caused by one thing - running too much boost with not enough octane. Someone was obviously trying to crank the boost up using pump gas. Your aftermarket parts aren't going to handle detonation any better than the oem components - so if you want the rebuild to last, be sure to run high boost only on high octane race fuel. If you follow this rule, the oem 2jz-gte components (yes, bone-stock) can reliably handle over 1000hp (with aftermarket turbo, injectors, and cams of course). The limit on 93 octane ((r+m)/2) pump gas and the oem ecu is about 14psi with the oem twins, and maybe 16psi or so with the oem ecu and a big single turbo. To cause the damage you describe, I'd guess someone was trying to run in excess of 22psi on pump gas.
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