Cobra Guys dissin Supra TT

[Isphius]

Originally Posted by 2jpowered

"The new C6 z06 is a monster." "We are gonna need that new supra super car now to keep up on the track. The mkiv is outdated. I own a supra so Im not taking sides. The new vette isnt anything like its predecessor. Its a killer."

I dont think any car company can really keep up wit hthe corvette at this point. GM has so much dam money that they can spend 2 million dollars engineering a brake line better and cheaper than anyone else, and thats why they can make that car badass and still cheap. that takes a lot of money. Im sure toyota could if they were set on it, im sure theve got quite a bit of money too. Id like to see one of the newer toyota v8s in the supra, same getrag transmission, but all new car. lighter would help too. the zo6 is 500hp and 3100lbs, need at least that lol.

[spoonfed]

if you ask me PUSSTanGS are for women and gay men!

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by Isphius

I dont think any car company can really keep up wit hthe corvette at this point. GM has so much dam money that they can spend 2 million dollars engineering a brake line better and cheaper than anyone else, and thats why they can make that car badass and still cheap. that takes a lot of money.

I'm pretty sure the C6 Z06 sells for about $75K or so. Fwiw, that's not what I'd call "cheap" unless you're comparing it to an Enzo...

Originally Posted by Isphius

...Id like to see one of the newer toyota v8s in the supra...

Why? Imho, they should stick to the 1000hp-capable 2jz-gte. All it needs is a bigger set of fully sequential twin turbos, and an oem meth+H2O injection system, to put out 600 very reliable horsepower.

Originally Posted by Isphius

...same getrag transmission, but all new car. lighter would help too. the zo6 is 500hp and 3100lbs, need at least that lol.

Agreed 100%

[Isphius]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

I'm pretty sure the C6 Z06 sells for about $75K or so. Fwiw, that's not what I'd call "cheap" unless you're comparing it to an Enzo...

Why? Imho, they should stick to the 1000hp-capable 2jz-gte. All it needs is a bigger set of fully sequential twin turbos, and an oem meth+H2O injection system, to put out 600 very reliable horsepower.

Im saying its cheap compared to cars of similar perforamnce, ie viper or the new ford gt40, which both cost more. And for it to be considered a stock car, to compete with something likel the corvette they need a 500-600hp motor in there from the factory, they cant just hope that everyone will modify there cars as soon as they buy them.

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by Isphius

Im saying its cheap compared to cars of similar perforamnce, ie viper or the new ford gt40, which both cost more. And for it to be considered a stock car, to compete with something likel the corvette they need a 500-600hp motor in there from the factory, they cant just hope that everyone will modify there cars as soon as they buy them.

Originally Posted by Isphius

...Id like to see one of the newer toyota v8s in the supra...

If the 2jz-gte came with bigger sequential turbos and water/meth injection from the factory, there'd be no need to go to a different engine OR for the owners modify their cars to put down 600hp. With those two bolt-on mods and a lightweight hydro-formed chassis, and the MK5 Supra is back on top.

[Isphius]

That would be sweet. now we can just wish for toyota to do somethign lol. im sure they have the resources/money

[Greglatta]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

If the 2jz-gte came with bigger sequential turbos and water/meth injection from the factory, there'd be no need to go to a different engine OR for the owners modify their cars to put down 600hp. With those two bolt-on mods and a lightweight hydro-formed chassis, and the MK5 Supra is back on top.

So you're saying that a 600hp could put the new corvette to shame? I would love to differ the suspension would have to change the chassis and 600 of hp from turbo is no where as nice as 500 from n/a pure displacement

[pwpanas]

Originally Posted by Greglatta

So you're saying that a 600hp could put the new corvette to shame? I would love to differ the suspension would have to change the chassis and 600 of hp from turbo is no where as nice as 500 from n/a pure displacement

At the very least 600hp, together with a lightweight hydro-formed chassis, would make the MKV Supra Turbo competitive with the C6 Z06. Imho, there's nothing wrong with the current structure/geometry of the jza80's double-wishbone suspension; add a set of Moton/Penske/Ohlin coilovers (perhaps as a factory option, like the fluid definition of a 'stock' Viper ACR), and it's more than sufficient. Niceties aside, and all else being equal/similar (weight, rubber, etc.), horsepower wins races...

[Greglatta]

Originally Posted by pwpanas

At the very least 600hp, together with a lightweight hydro-formed chassis, would make the MKV Supra Turbo competitive with the C6 Z06. Imho, there's nothing wrong with the current structure/geometry of the jza80's double-wishbone suspension; add a set of Moton/Penske/Ohlin coilovers (perhaps as a factory option?), and it's more than sufficient. Niceties aside, and all else being equal/similar (weight, rubber, etc.), horsepower wins races...

N/A is better horsepower then turbo, no turbo lag