Supra V-8 conversion
 

So i went to an auto show the other day and i seen a supra with a engine conversion. he had a ford v-8 in it. Is there anybody else here who has seen one like that or maybe you have one urself? What do u guys think about changing to a completely different motor? Just thought it was interesting.
thnx.

i personally don't like it. i prefer sticking with the 7mge, 7mgte, etc.

here is a pic of another twin turbo v-8 swap off of suprastore

http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg...._1886_31471620

if i swapped to a v8 id stick to a toyota/lexus enigne. be a sweet sight to see.

the one off of suprastore says that it is a lexus v-8

1uz-fe......

I just posted a new trhead on this topic, ecxept that I want to plant an LT1 from a camaro z28 or firebird. let me know or read my thread.

As soon as you put a GM motor (or any other US motor) in your Supra it is no longer a Supra but just a piece of crap.

Spend the time and money on a good MKIII and develope it for more HP if you must OR put an MKIV twin turbo motor in it. Probably less trouble and a 10 times better piece of machinery.

OR...put the GM in it, paint the car with some nice NASCAR colors and sponsers, crack yourself a budweiser, grow a mullet, and admire the nicest car in the trailer park.

hey bro im against the chevy powered supra too, or any import/domestic swap, but you dont need to go so far as to call someone a redneck... for god sake man the one lives in the dominican replublic... which just makes you look like a dumbass. as for the idea, im against it but the fact that you have already done it is impressive and i wouldnt mind seeing the pics of it

Yeah, this is the one topic that really gets people going!

I think if you do a neat job at it, then that is what will determine if you did a good job of doing such a conversion.

Their are valid reason why one should do a conversion such as:
I had a car that needed a motor and a motor that I have had, so I combined them.

But then again, I personally hate the sleepy eye look in a way you can't imagine, so I can also see how some people can hate some changes.
I just try to keep my remarks valid, civil, and watch the implications I make.

WOW...I guess I kinda stirred the pot.

My comments about NASCAR, bud, and trailer parks simply intended to convey my feeling that a GM engine in a Supra downgrades the car. I prefer to think of the Supra in the same light as F1 or SCCA and Rolex series, not NASCAR or Saturday night dirt ovals.
All cars are good and fun and all forms of racing are good and fun.
But, my point is, once you put a GM motor in a Supra it is no longer a Supra, but now a kit car.

I never called anybody a redneck (not that there's anything wrong with that) or a dumb ass. Only a dumb ass would say that.

well if that truly what you meant then i guess no harm done, except on my part. its hard to tell what people mean on the web and i guess i turned it the wrong way.

kajetten, you should post some pics

I say, if you all are car enthusiats, Dont argue about so and so's opinion, because its just that, a matter of opinion. But what you should try to do is help each other...

So Untru it isnt funny
 

First off some people dont have the means or the money to buy japanesse parts. im in the prosess of dropping a ford twin turbo 427 stroker motor in an 86 supra. mainly because i dont understand japs engines. i love the body of the supras, it is a good looking car but it will be a lot easier for me to understand how to work on an american made motor. so u have no right to be calling americans motors pieces of crap. maybe we are rednecks but we are rednecks that will walk all over your ass. so my point is that ur opinion means what to who?
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i went on to read the rest of the post and cooled myself down about what u said but if u are going to make fun of someones idea make sure people dont take it the wrong way.

Sorry...I'll be more careful next time so as not to hurt anyones feelings.

I guess I'm just a purist. I also don't think if you put a Toyota engine in a Mustang it is a Mustang anymore.

sorry for posting, i know its off-topic but... BURN!!!! :eek2:
wow this really is a heated thread lol

this may seem too late but, a toyota engine in a mustang,, are u burining yourself , mustang do that because, supras are known mustang killers thats why they try putting ening like that with american cars , im sori , american cars were leading tha pack, with the gto, chevelles, and other old pure muscle cars, but amreicans are loosing it, wait till the new supra arrives, detriot iron is gonna b panicing again to come up with another inovation to defeat toyota,, sorry dude but an american engine on a supra, thats jus betrayal, a toyota engine on a mustang= an upgrade,

le me jus put it this way: putting a american engine on a supra
is jus like martin luther king joining the kkk
it jus doesnt come together

screw KKK
POWER TO THE PEOPLE ha ha ha ha

who said anything about a supra motor in a mustang, u may be right if it was a turbo supra and a stock mustang. most people such as myself put american motors in foreign cars because of price to horsepower ratio. i think american motors are easier to work on.

ask yourself this: how much does a 600 horse supra motor cost over a american v-8?

Does any one know where i can find a supra hybrid forum becasue i could use useful information about how to do a supra engine swap?

Good luck finding a supra hybrid forum. It's probably not something to many people do.

My guess is if you try a Mustang or Cobra site they will tend to be a bunch of meanies like us and use insults like 'rice burners suck' and get all pissed of 'cause Toyota is in NASCAR.

Toyota is in NASCAR? Didn't know that. But then really don't follow it either. How are they doing against the USA big 3?

I don't follow NASCAR either but accidentally get exposed to it on Speed channel and Autoweek mag. Toyota has been in the truck series for a few years...don't know how they do. Toyota will be in the full-on Nextel Cup NASCAR series starting next sesion. Many of the "good ol' boys' are not happy about it because they think NASCAR is an American sport that should only have American cars. One of the popular drivers (can't remember who) is switching teams next year to drive a Toyota and many of his long time fans are even pissed of about it...like he's some kind of traitor. People are very passionate about 'their' cars, as is evident from this forum.

The rules are so tight however that all NASCAR cars are pretty equal so I don't see Toyota having a huge advantage outside the amount of money they will bring to the team.

Toyota is in Formula 1 with the biggest budget but still can't compete with Renault, Ferrari, and Mercedes. They don't have the experience yet.

I think you guys are insane!
 

I dont know why you guys dont just tune up chevrolets! Although it may be a lot cheaper to get big horsepower with a v8 instead of a turbo it just seems wrong to put a chev engine in a toyota. Especially since the inline 6 durability wise is like the best engine design ever!! Screw the extra 2 cylinders and throw a twin turbo on it.

You gotta decide if you want muscle or import.
 

dont mutate your car!

i need an import with muscle.

Some people will see it that way indeed.
Or like--if you had the ability to do so--to take a rooster's head and put it on an eagle or vise versa.
Or like exchange the heads of a tiger and a wolf.

This one may make more sense: swapping an engine from a Harley to a super bike or vice versa.

To some people, that is how they see it and they just will not give you any support. Asking/expecting support from people that feel that way is sort of foolish because it will never happen.

On the other hand, I believe that people should do what they want as long as it is not at the expense of others. So if it is your car, do whatever you want with it.

Just one thing though, certain cars are becoming more and more rare to come by, so if you do this conversion and keep it, that is one thing.
But if someone were to go and bastardize many MKIII's and then try to sell them, that is another thing because they are screwing up the supply of these cars unnecessarily.
Sort of like the Del Sols I see on eBay - nice cars but with so many people messing them up and ricing them, the ricers really killed off the supply of Del Sols if someone wanted a decent one.


By the way, I merged this thread from the other one because this thread was made for exchanging ideas, whereas the other one was made for a request of a picture. I once made a thread that was hijacked in which I needed help, so I know how that can be.

If its an import with muscle then try ara arslanian's toyota solara with the mk iv 2JZ engine at over 1600 horses.

darn guys, dont hate... I think since I was one of the first ones to reply to this post and since my idea of a GM engine swap stirred a lot of controversy I decided that I was intended to keep my turbo supra REAL to its legacy..

In fact its allready running on all toyota parts......but like one of u guys posted, at the end the only thing that matters is if its at your own expense....."Whatever rocks your boat"

My 7mge is on it's way out and I'm debating a domestic swap as well. We will have to see where I end up when I am done but from pricing Chevy small blocks and everything that is an option from 7m to 1jz etc, the Chevy's are hard to beat $/hp. No to mention the availability of parts.

once again this might b too late, but the race that i saw wasnt a stock mustang

it was a saleen mustang getting destroyed by a veilside supra,

thats sounds like and even match for me

but in the end, superior engineering jus rises on top

not calling anybody a redneck, but jus crack a bud or any beer and jus chill back and relax

plus i got personal experience with this kind of problem that i dunt want anybody betraying their cars,
if you know anything about a cadillac catera, here's a brief story
for my first car i also wanted an american car, cuz i was fascinated with american muscle but i also wanted luxury i came across the catera, it was v6 3.0 same specs as the supra, the only difrence is wieght,

a stock supra mk3 and my stock catera only had tenths of a second diffrence with the 0-60 and the 1/4 times , so dunt underestimate my other car

but later i have found out that my catera is an american betrayal, it was an american that was made by germans, in germany, with german parts, i was pissed to find this thing out , that my car wasnt as pure as i thought it was

this is how supra enthusiasts, fans, drivers feel about putting an american engine in a supra, this is why there is so much resistance with an american swap,

real supra owners will not even care about the $/hp ratio, if youre a real supra owner , you will do everything that you can to keep it real

Thats cool. Well simply put, there is an obvious benefit to stuffing a v8 in there thats 5 liters or more, And thats why people would do it. Im sure if toyota, Kia, VW, Porsche, Any of them made a cheap v8 that there is lots of parts for, It would be considered for a swap. Plus, some of the coolest cars ever are cross breeds. Like the pantera race cars, italian chassi with a ford v8, And the shelby cobra, Little tiny british car with a 427 aluminum block race motor... lol. And the vector aeromotive w12 cars from the 90s, That was an all american made car with a lambo Diablo v12 in it. And that w8 from earlier which was glued together aluminum/balsa wood and had a twin turbo oldsmobile front wheel drive v8 setup in the back and 600 hp.

The Lexus 1UZ-FE is a V8 and will fit. And everyone knows Lexus = Toyota.

yes, But you can literally get an aftermarket upgrade for every single part in an american motor. Thats what im saying. Theres so many parts for esepcially the chevy 350 and ford 302, That either of those can be a badass motor for little $

Exactly. My dad is putting a 347 stroker motor (based off of a 302) in a 944 porsche. But he was first looking at a LS1 (Chevy 350).

Im hoping that my swap goes well cause im putting a 427 stroker (based off of a ford 351) in my 87 supra. And its not going to be bad in price cause you can find domestic parts anywhere.

Whats the weight of that engine compared to the supra? I had a freind who put a 302 in a mustang 2 that had a 4 cylinder and his suspension and handling went out the window.
You need to consider how it will handle with all that extra weight and what to beef up the suspention with because I doubt toyota designed the suspension and subframe to handle a big block.
351 windsor aprox 510 pounds
351 cleveland aprox 550 pounds

i havent really thought about it but there is a multitude of things i can do to make the engine as light as possible and im only going from a v-6 to a v-8. but that might be one thing i will consider. thanks for the info.

this tells me alot about you and your toyota experience....:nuts:

hey, to each his own I always say.

yeah but i heard that the toyota v-6 are damn heavy though. So a v-8 shouldnt be such a big jump especially if i get alluminum heads and flywheel. Also there are many other things i can do to get closer to a 50:50 weight. i can put the batteries in the back. I'm putting twin turbos on so i will put both of them in the back of the car, etc. So i should be in pretty good shape.

Ur putting turbos in the back of the car?

ummm....what I meant by my last comment is only NOOB toyota owners refer to them as V6.....seeing as its NOT a "V"6 at all, rather its a I6 or more specifically a DOHC 24V I6


its kinda a pet peave of mine, I see ads for supra's all the time that say V6 and I suspect the owner knows nothing of their car.

Note: An all aluminum LS1 weighs less than a 7m motor, Both with all bolt ons and filled

wow. i totaly spaced on that. i really do know the difference. lol