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Littlestan 12-29-2005 09:07 AM

Gauging interest for composite products.
 
Hello all!,

A while back some of you may remember me asking about how many of you would be interested in having composite (carbon fiber, kevlar, fiberglass, etc.) parts made up for the MKIII.

Well, the response was amazing and about a month ago I actually started putting together a composites shop. It took a lot of thought, effort and time but it's nearly finished now!

I plan on being able to start building molds for 7M based MA70 MKIII Supra parts beginning of January, with actual production following a few weeks after.

I myself own a 1G-GTE equipped GA70 MKIII, and hope to find enough people who own them to build molds for them as well.

To give you an idea of what will eventually be available to you, here are a few of the types of molds I will be creating and their approximate cost breakdown; (in CDN)

1. Interior door panels. $400 a pair.

2. Per individual IC upper/lower piping. $75-$300. By per individual, I mean that unless I also sell an aftermarket intercooler and BOV w/pipe and flange to go with the IC piping, most everybody will have different parts and sizes required. Thus, every IC piping order will be based on the individuals specific needs.

3. Misc. engine bay parts like valve cover ($100), cam timing cover ($80), intake piping ($100), etc.

4. Targa top. $400. Yes, an ACTUAL full carbon fiber replacement Targa top.

Others will surely pop up as the ideas keep flowing.

Please be patient, as the shop is nearly done and there's much more work to do before creating even a single quality part to be sold to you.

Just letting everyone know that it IS in the works, and I WILL keep you all posted with progress and pics.

Cheers!,

-=Littlestan=-

[ST Composites]

P.S. Feel free to leave any comments/thoughts/ideas. It helps me help you guys! ^^

suprra_girl 12-29-2005 09:22 AM

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! :bow:

that targa top will sell like hotcakes... heaps of ppl want those ;)

hurry up already and get pics lol



j/k when ya got em ready would love to see em :)

Bullz_EyE 12-29-2005 09:30 AM

That's freakin awesome. I hope your business grows into something special and I look forward to purchasing parts from you in the future.

Littlestan 12-31-2005 12:52 AM

Thanks much for the support guys!

I'll be working up to New Years night, then I'll take pics of my "clean room".

Anyone else have anything to add? Things you'd like to see done,
specific types of materials offered, etc.? I won't be producing just CF parts,
so keep firing off those ideas!

New things I'm adding to the product list for sure;

1. Door sills. $70 - $100 a pair, depending on material desired.

2. Misc. rear hatch interior covers. Not sure on prices yet.

Speaking of prices, these are only figures I've come to on paper.
Once I have a good mold and figure out exactly how much time and material is used,
I can then figure out exact cost. Some may be more in the end, some may be less. Time will tell! :)

Happy New Year all!,

-=Littlestan=-

87supraturbo 12-31-2005 01:15 AM

Perhaps a carbon fibre OE style rear wing from the 89+ supra's would be nice?

Matt

87supraturbo 12-31-2005 01:19 AM

And also great idea on the carbon fibre targa top!! It'll look hot just the old ferrari 355 GTS F1's that had the carbon targa!! I'll be waiting to order one for sure!

Matt

kewlcoconut 12-31-2005 04:46 AM

nice, cant wait until the shop is done. i will definetly drive to where you are and pick something up, since i live kinda close to you :P

Littlestan 12-31-2005 05:32 AM

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Good idea 87supraturbo!

This is the one you're talkaing about, right? This is my car, btw.

Thanks for the support guys, keep 'em coming!

-=Littlestan=-

j3pz 12-31-2005 07:25 AM

i havent seen any aftermarket taillights. something like that would sell great. also a dask kit to complement the doors?

suprra_girl 12-31-2005 07:31 AM

a a an an and rhd??? :(

Littlestan 12-31-2005 09:15 AM

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a a an an and rhd??? :(

:D Youuuuu betcha! Thass mah babay!

Got all you Aussie's covered, Suprra_girl! ^^

Cheers and Happy New Year!,

-=Littlestan=-

suprra_girl 12-31-2005 10:34 AM

that's really really cool!!! :D


but i'm a kiwi... that's what you call ppl that live in New Zealand ;)
nz & aussie are two different countries :p

KingDiamond 12-31-2005 01:04 PM

isn't kiwi also a type of bird? i know its a fruit we already discussed that

suprra_girl 12-31-2005 01:39 PM

lol

yes.. it's native to our country :)

Burn N' Up 12-31-2005 10:29 PM

First off congrats on the shop, a huge step for anyone to venture out like that, and with a crowd like that is here you should be rolling in dough in no time.

If your gonna fab in non fiber... say some kind of clear composite... i know alot of people who would gladly trade their mothers for a set of clear front clearance lights. Everyone has turn signals for sale but not those little clearance lights.

Can you do interior colors? Its very difficult to get any interior pieces in anything but black, you'd make a killing on OEM color interior parts.

Carbon fiber center console?

Again congratulations on the shop.

Littlestan 01-02-2006 05:45 AM

Hey all!,

Suprra_girl - :D Sorry 'bout the confusion. I did notice you were from New Zealand,
just didn't click in the 'ol noggin. My bad!

Burn N' Up - Appreciate the kudos mon! I hope everyone will have an interest in
at least one type of thing I make. As for your Q's;

Quote:

If your gonna fab in non fiber... say some kind of clear composite... i know alot of people who would gladly trade their mothers for a set of clear front clearance lights. Everyone has turn signals for sale but not those little clearance lights.
I CAN work with clear thermosetting plastics, but as the cost in making a mold
and investing in the few different pieces of equipment such as a oven and
heat-resistant materials outweighs normal temperature composites,
I would need a group buy interest list of about 15 people. Sorry to sound like a
defeatist! :(

Quote:

Can you do interior colors? Its very difficult to get any interior pieces in anything but black, you'd make a killing on OEM color interior parts.

I can definitely do interior colors! Fiberglass is the easy one to do, while
carbon fiber and kevlar come in different material colors. If anyone did happen
to want a carbon fiber or kevlar part a completely solid color I could do that
as well, though I personally think that defeats the visual impact of it.

Quote:

Carbon fiber center console?
Yes! This one will be a difficult one to do as there are many different
attatchments on the back to fabricate in, but it would be fun to design. I
believe there's a person named "tte" in the misc. vendors section on
www.supramania.com that is making them at the moment, so I would go to
him first. I will talk to him soon and ask if he would mind me making them up
here in Canada as he lives in California.

Thanks for the questions guys! Not much to report on the shop atm,
though I did manage to epoxy coat the tables in the Clean Room.
$150 later... :)

Have a good one guys,

-=Littlestan=-

Littlestan 01-02-2006 08:19 AM

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Burn N' Up got me thinking about the clear plastic thing, and I just thought

of something I would REALLY like to make for the MKIII that's bothered me for

awhile...

A headlight conversion kit.

There's something about those flip-up lights that bugs me. I can just hear all

you guys out there gasping, but I think a set of perma lights would look great!

Like this 300ZX... :D

Anyways, how many on here would be interested in this? Please post or PM!

Cheers,

-=Littlestan=-

[ST Composites]

j3pz 01-02-2006 08:41 AM

awsome! while the pop up lights ARE a supra thing, they kinda bug me too. i think on this matter though you either hate them or love them

88Supraboy 01-02-2006 03:18 PM

That would be a sweet MOD!! and would really stand out!

kewlcoconut 01-03-2006 08:47 AM

i love my pop up lights, but at the same time, i could part with them to maybe see them converted to the 300 style. but i would have to see what it looks like on a supra before i make a drastic change.

Littlestan 01-05-2006 03:17 PM

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Hey guys,

Managed to find a pic of a Supra with exactly the type of headlight

conversion I'm looking for.

Also, today I begin building my first mold! I decided to go with door sills as my

first project. Straight forward design, and if I do bugger up (not like that's

ever happened... :P) it won't cost me heaps of $$$.

I'll take pics of the almost completed shop as well.

Cheers!,

-=Littlestan=-

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j3pz 01-05-2006 05:44 PM

ya ive seen that pic on that one site. i like that tlook, its different but still looks good

j3pz 01-07-2006 10:33 PM

i was just thinking to myself, how about cf engine components? like maybe cam covers or timing belt cover or stuff like that. fan shroud, you get the idea.

Xanatos 01-08-2006 10:30 PM

Door Sills!!!
 
Put me down for a set of those door sills and the targa roof! Good luck on the venture. I'm sure you'll get quite a few purchases from off of this board.

Littlestan 01-09-2006 12:58 AM

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Hey all!,

Ok, sorry to take so long in posting progress, but I got ALOT of stuff done

lately. Namely;

1. Completed my door sill molds, and made my first pair! These are the first

versions of the sills, and as such I didn't bother sanding/clearcoating them.

Just wanted to make sure they get the nod of approval from you guys before

making a zillion pairs. These will cost around $100 CDN. Not set in stone yet,

but there it is.

2. Finished the shop! All that's left to do is wiring, but for now I have a temp

setup that gives me the power I need. Ready to start working!

Ok, now for answers.

Quote:

i was just thinking to myself, how about cf engine components? like maybe cam covers or timing belt cover or stuff like that. fan shroud, you get the idea.
j3pz, I think that's a great idea! I would have to research the high

temperature epoxies that are out there, but it's definitely do-able.

I need opinions on what I should make next! I was thinking a replacement

front windshield trim piece (see pic) or the rear hatch interior piece (see pic).

What do you guys think?

-=Littlestan=-

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Burn N' Up 01-09-2006 08:01 PM

What web site is that pic from? The hood is the exact one I want to get for my MKIII dammit where did he find it?! Anyone?!

Littlestan 01-09-2006 11:10 PM

Hey guys,

Still need feedback on what to make next. Targa top is also an option, but will

take longer to engineer and produce than the sills.

Cheers!,

-=Littlestan=-

[ST Composites]

suprra_girl 01-10-2006 11:29 AM

damnnnnnnn those sills are on fire!!!! :bow:

and i think ur on to something with the front windshield cover ;)
heaps of ppl's rust out and look horrendous

pm me a special admin price on those sills and shipping to Auckland, New Zealand eh ;)

KNYFE 01-13-2006 03:34 PM

So... Here's my thoughts. Could you do an entire interior in carbon fiber? Not everything but everything that is vinyl? ie. dash, door cover, console, etc? I was thinking a black leather and cabon fiber interior would be AWESOME!!! Let me know...

Strannik 01-15-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burn N' Up
What web site is that pic from? The hood is the exact one I want to get for my MKIII dammit where did he find it?! Anyone?!

http://www.suprasport.nl/index.php?m...roducts_id=248

is that the one?

Burn N' Up 01-15-2006 06:10 PM

Hmmm, very close, that guy has the two smaller cowl inductions, but not the large one, i don't want the large on either. Where is that pic from stan.

Strannik 01-15-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burn N' Up
Hmmm, very close, that guy has the two smaller cowl inductions, but not the large one, i don't want the large on either. Where is that pic from stan.

suprasport shop obviously :)

Burn N' Up 01-16-2006 05:32 AM

No i mean that metallic orange supra that little stan posted. where is THAT picture from, hehe my bad

j3pz 01-16-2006 01:33 PM

it from a site with supras with exterior mods. the site is in the ext and int section. ill post it up anyways. http://members.aol.com/akiraneo/kits.html

Littlestan 01-17-2006 07:03 AM

Hey all!,

Sorry for being away for so long, but I've had nothing happening in the shop

lately due to it being under a foot of water! We've had rain for 29 days straight

here in the Lower Mainland and it turns out the shop is in a bit of a low spot. :P

Soon sills wil be available for anyone who wants them though!

Down to business;


Quote:

So... Here's my thoughts. Could you do an entire interior in carbon fiber? Not everything but everything that is vinyl? ie. dash, door cover, console, etc? I was thinking a black leather and cabon fiber interior would be AWESOME!!! Let me know...



Yes, that's pretty much what I'm aiming for here. However, I won't be making
certain parts that some other people already offer. Rather, I want to make
pieces that nobody offers so anyone who DOES want to have every interior
piece in CF, can! And I agree with you about the look of black leather/CF, but
I hate how cold it is in the morning! Thanks for the input KNYFE.

Burn N' Up, sorry for not PM'ing you the link earlier, I couldn't remember where
I'd come across the pic... Have it on bookmark now. ^^

Anyways, I'll post again when the shop is fully operational again.

Cheers,

-=Littlestan=-

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Strannik 01-17-2006 09:06 AM

how bout CF bonnets?:)

KNYFE 01-17-2006 05:09 PM

So, if someone is already making some of these parts do you have links to them? I'm pretty sold on doing the CF and black leather interior. Thanks for the answer and help. I have the feeling you will be very popular for the monthes to come!!!

j3pz 01-17-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlestan
I won't be making
certain parts that some other people already offer. Rather, I want to make
pieces that nobody offers so anyone who DOES want to have every interior
piece in CF, can!
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strannik
how bout CF bonnets?:)

doubt he will. exteme dimensions has one i believe

Littlestan 01-18-2006 01:04 AM

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Ok!

Here's some pics of the new version sills. They might not look too different,

but they definitely are. The old versions were exact copies of the stock sills.

The new versions are straight cut on the edges, have a wider base plate, and

I've molded it so the bottom radius is larger enabling you to run wires from the

front or back of the car under the sill if need be.

Shopwise, I estimate only 2 more days of drying out before it's good to go

again. Can't wait to start working again!

Strannik, I probably won't be making CF bonnets if j3pz is correct. I haven't

searched around to see if other comapnies are making them, so if there isn't,

it's definitely a possiblity.

Anyways, enjoy!

-=Littlestan=-

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j3pz 01-18-2006 03:38 AM

omg that is sexy! i can only imagine what the full interior with black leather would look like! oh wow


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