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GreenChevelleSS 11-16-2005 04:05 AM

Need help putting engine back together
 
Anyone have or know where a picture story is of some one putting all the lines and building the 90ish 7mgte? Im getting ready to put it back together and all these lines and hoses and everything running everywhere is gonna give me a headache and the book dont help me much so I want some good big pictures that I can use as a reference. what would help the most is if someone that had a supra brought theirs over to my house that would be the best....anyone live in tulsa?
Also has anyone put the turbo on their engine and then dropped it back in the car? How hard was it to get the engine mounts back in there with it. Im afraid I cant get the oil line back on thats on the bottom of the turbo with the engine back in there....

Bullz_EyE 11-16-2005 04:32 AM

As far as that oil line, if it gives you any reassurance, the turbo can be removed
easily from the car with the engine still in it's home (from what I've witnessed).

Weren't you the one that took the engine out? It'd make sense to note where
things came from when you pulled them out. I'm not implying you don't know
what you're doing, it's just I thought you were the one doing the whole
procedure.

I'll probably be in the same situation though because I'm soon going to tackle a
head gasket replacement by myself.

GreenChevelleSS 11-16-2005 01:34 PM

the turbo can be removed easily? Yea it took me like 2 days to get it out and the oil line was the hardest part. I cant get to it from the underside and I cant get my arms to go between the turbo and inner fender very well.

yes I was the one who pulled the engine, but whens theres 200 lines running everywhere its hard to set there and memorize every one. I know where some go but not all. And there was tons of bolts missing and things loose so who knows whats correct...

The simpler the better, I know every single part on my chevelle and if one was in boxes I could put it together...I would need help with the bolts tho for where they go.

GreenChevelleSS 11-23-2005 09:56 PM

Anyone? Help!

j3pz 11-23-2005 10:07 PM

when i pulled my motor i took pictures of my lines but after i began pulling it out i noticed i missed alot of them:stupid: its a good idea gone bad... and after looking at them again i dont think they'd help you much

shawn87gta 11-24-2005 04:21 PM

Not that this helps you now, but it might be helpful to others reading the post or yourself in the future. When I took my GM TPI motor apart I labeled every wire & hose and the corresponding connections, and made notes along the way. This takes a bit longer but you'll more than make up the time at reassembly. I also took digital pics before starting to note locations of wires, brackets, accessories, belt routing, etc. My GTA is pre-serpentine and has four separate belts, and I can attest that the brackets & accessories will mount up incorrectly... I'll take pics at any point where I look at it and think "this'll be a pain to get back together right", and after other parts are out of the way to get a clearer pic.

RogerH 11-24-2005 07:57 PM

turbo and gaskets
 
I've replaced the exhaust gasket on my wifes '87NA and my '90 turbo. The worst problem is stripping the threads in the head as the nuts rust on and the stud comes out of the the head + thread. Both cars have one stud stripped but the gaskets are holding. Getting the Turbo on and off is a real pain with the connections underneath but I did it in a morning after lots of trys with different spanners.I did the head gasket on my sons '88NA, I labled all the hoses with different coloured tape, you also need to mark their route thro' the other pipework. Most of the electrical connectors are different so only go back in one place - they are difficult to get apart use very small screw drivers down their sides to release the clips. Thought of using a standard Toyota gasket but after all the work and the mess the old one was in decided to use metal one - it leaked initially - steam out of the exhaust I used some rad seal and it settled down in week and hasn't used any water in the last 6 months. I had the head skimmed but just cleaned the block (not very well). I didn't retorque the head as I had already put it up to the revised high setting.

lethalwithasupra 11-25-2005 08:57 AM

this held me up for a weekend when i put my cars head back on. next weekend i had to take turbo off and replace a leaking oil gasket where that metal oil pipe fits to the turbo, took less than an afternoon.

1/4" 12mm tube socket with 3 extensions and you can just line it up onto the nuts on the bottom of the turbo with your ratchet below the suspension arm. keep all the nuts loose just on the first couple of threads untill you have them all started. its very possible, just a mean job ... if that's the bit youre having trouble with ?

the vaccum lines are actually kinda easy once you get into what i call my " toyota supra rythm. "
small lines are boost, bigger ones are manifold coolant, bigger again do boost, everything else is boost.



ps has somebody sent you a pic of a supra engine froma certain angle yet ? if you can get some specific questions im sure somebody will send you an answer.

Benesesso 11-27-2005 03:15 PM

Let me know if you want photos taken of particular areas--I have a 1990 Turbo (and an '88).

GreenChevelleSS 11-27-2005 05:13 PM

Yes please, can you get close ups of the engine all around?

Thank you so much...

flight doc89 11-28-2005 01:43 AM

next time, get those numbered sticker/tags that are sold at most autoparts stores. The stickerbooks have pairs of numbers for you to put a number on the hose and the matching number on its connect point. (it saves a lot of hair pulling)

joel w 11-28-2005 03:21 AM

2 Attachment(s)
here are some of mine. not close but ok..

7mpowered87t 11-30-2005 07:50 PM

I'm in the same boat with an 87 turbo. Only I did not remove the engine, a mechanic did it, and to make a long story short the project to much longer than anticipated and I moved out of state. Now the car is ready to go back together but the mechanic didnt label anything. I would also very much appreciate any close up photos of the engine bay and/or hints about reassemblying the 7MGTE.

I have owned this car for nearly 3 yrs and have only driven it about 3 or 4 times, ( I bought it with a rod knock with the intent to build a 12 sec car) the wait is killing me..... any help would get buckets of gratitude (I would say cash, but the black hole with a turbo badge has swallowed most of that!)

joel w 11-30-2005 08:31 PM

check www.supramania.com there are some really awsome step by step instructions on the faq section..

Jebus 12-01-2005 04:23 AM

Dont forget pressure!
 
Another thing if you have an engine out of the car, make sure you have good oil pressure before you start it. Of course, when you build the engine you must prime the oil pump when you assemble it, but once its back together, i used a drill, with an old drive wheel in it, and used the cam belt to hook it up to the oil pump. I put an oil pressure gauge where the oil switch, or sensor is, and cranked it up. Dont do it for too long as the pump is working hard, and you only need about 500rpm to see a good amount of preassure in the gauge. You really dont want the head to run dry for any period of time, the cams and head cop a massive battering in split seconds, the last thing you want after a full rebuild.

Jebus 12-01-2005 04:30 AM

One more thing. Loop an oil cooler line. Or you wont get any pressure and end up with oil all over you.

GreenChevelleSS 12-14-2005 04:36 AM

What do you mean loop the oil cooler line? I cant just put them back to where they were?

Well I got finally got the block back and I had it bored .020" over so Im now waiting on some pistons and rings that I ordered and should be here one of these days. I bought a whole gasket kit for the engine and I noticed now when im putting it back together that some important gaskets are missing I guess ill have to cit my own then. The exhaust gaskets, the ones from the exhaust manifold to the turbo and the turbo to the turbo elbow, are reusable right?
Also the gasket for the oil return line on the turbo is not in the kit.

I will be getting some more updated pics up on the website of the engine rebuild soon... so check and tell me what you think when I do get them up...
www.cardomain.com/id/3115ultima

vladkalika 12-16-2005 04:19 AM

good engine pics
 
http://www.ma70.com/bishop92t/archive.html

GreenChevelleSS 12-17-2005 05:37 PM

Thanks for that site it helps some!

getting the engine back together tell me what you think of it...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...2145564_43.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member...2145564_42.jpg


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